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General DiscussionPlaying WK against AM

Playing WK against AM in General Discussion
Shou

    I was thinking about silver edge in this match up, to break am so he cant mana burn. Also considered to forgo rad as it isnt a deathbally enough item against am. Im currently thinking treads armlet bm(maybe faster blink/sb instead and skip bm) blink silver edge basher ac
    Also considering whether to fully upgrade basher to abyssal or leave it but i figure thats more game situational, whether u can burst am fast enough or not.
    Talents wise i think u shud just end before lvl 25, but if u reach it, u definetely take no mana cost and then definetley beat am. Is it worth to get the 15 ms over wraithfire dps, cuz neither sound good, 15 ms is so little. Also attack speed over strength at lvl 20 right? To burst the am while he is broken?

    Jacked

      No I think am will just manta abysal u befor u can break him

      kormoranas

        on lvl 25 you should still ez lose to am, since am as heroe goes for better item build than wk.
        if players are equally skilled wk cant win this fight, but since game is 5v5... :)

        evy

          A good AM player will just shit on WK and outfarm him hard at any point of the game and ends the game before he gets any item
          I doubt there is any efficient way to play around it except deathballing hard
          SE helps, but not that much
          AM gets manta and abyssal faster than WK could get his SE and abyssal to even start threatening him

          Jacked

            Think u just buy bkb and mjolnir ac radiance and shit on am

            pingwin

              Dont think u can catch am
              U need blink and more followup disables

              1-IceTea 🌟

                But Skadi raj,you will die before your mana all burned

                fx

                  By the time am got yasha and bf or only bf you need to have armlet blink/sb deso this way you can kill am instantly without any trouble

                  Seven-

                    u go armlet bm rad and push 30 mins i think

                    i think i did this build against pl with skadi/bws/jacked (forgot who) and we ended up winning

                    Seven-

                      https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2939685051

                      ok i was with apoo and skadi so the mmr is rly low but i think ita the beat u can do

                      not like killing am is the only way to beat him, u can just 5 man w/ ur team and win that way

                      but if the am gets hotd he can actually fight rly early with his tram

                      oof

                        you just bring the fight to him before hes ready, he cant actually manfight you because of the lifesteal aura.

                        like armlet blademail and go rape his shit.

                        i think at 25 you can take the extra aura lifesteal (assuming you are at least equal to him) and then he definitely cant manfight you because of shit like blademail and ac.

                        but yea i can see problems for wk if he uses hotd frost armor on himself.

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                        CAN I HAVE NORMAL GAME PLS

                          just go 5 man 10 mins in with enough sustain gg am

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                          Shou

                            Am takes almost 30 min to come fully online, and there is no way before butterfly that he can take a farmed wk's dps. Or maybe im wrong.

                            Shou

                              Like u can start knocking on t2's at 15 min what is am gonna do?

                              doc joferlyn simp

                                If AM is not at least five slotted WK still shreds him.

                                Cheap Laugh Guy

                                  Get lvl 25 so it won't be a problem

                                  casual gamer

                                    ez win if u end fast

                                    Dire Wolf

                                      Am can't actually kill you, he can just drain all ur mana so you die in team fights. So get bkb for team fights ez. If Am blows his load on you you bkb, then he'll have to switch targets, and your team should win the fight.

                                      Shou

                                        Item build tho? Is rad still an ok option? Any items to counter him?

                                        oof

                                          nything that complements your early fighting the most. id imagine like treads armlet sb/se maelstrom into ac? id used to do that build all the time and it was fine even if i got counterpicked by an am. maybe basher, idk. blademail of course if you dont want to be focused down fast, or at least make them pay for it (but mostly some abilites the enemy has no control over, like bs rupture me i just fucking run and kill him, or tinker march etc.

                                          blink seems to be good if your goal is to chase the am, but i suppose youre better off just letting him run (or not even be at the fight) and just take his rax by 20 using all your dps items you have.

                                          but im just 3k lol and not even spamming wk anymore, so might not want to take my word for it.

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                                          Beks

                                            the best counter to MK CK AM is PA
                                            evasion early midd game no one can by monkey by them u have deso basher gg wp

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                                            evy

                                              How does PA counter CK actually
                                              He doesn't give a shit about your evasion with his 99999999999 dps

                                              A
                                              A

                                                I'm waiting for the link on youtube wherein am got chained stun

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