Wtf. It seems to be effective, but I don't get WHY. Probably gonna watch some of your games.
Tbh I almost never go solo and I always have atleast a friend im playing with and it doesnt necessarily mean that they are good but they are atleast not retarded. And a new account doesnt mean anything cause you can just win 1 game get a great starting rating and be on frontpage playing against dendi and what not, I've been already again qojqva, AA and some other players known in the community. And if you think I play against those because i stack wouldnt that theoretically backfire.
it means a lot especially if your teammates dont have a lot of wins and if that is the case u play against 0-100wins players 90% of time
i went through some stats and yah u dont stack with low win players which means this build rly works against non retarded players D;
grats
I think the magic that brood is a very stealthy hero and can farm very fast. In addition she can zone out the complete jungle(as in you see a hero you nuke him to 20% or kill him and therefore force him away) and rotate between enemy safelaen and mid easily.
If anyone bothers i can show you guys a good example of where exactly that happened in some certain games
If they bkb it doesnt matter during teamfights you spam your 225 dmg nuke every 10 secodns and dagon for 600 every 15 keeping supports effectively down or you can just nuke prefight making the enemy carry half hp after the bkb started. Doesnt work always but works 90% of them times.
AND WHAT IF THEY GANK YOU AND THEN YOU DIE AND THEN YOU DONT FARM DAGON AND THEN UR USELESS AS A BROOD SHOULD BE WHANT THENN???
Sure :P
I think this one is great example of a brood dagon
http://dotabuff.com/matches/308425530
And maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe this one
http://dotabuff.com/matches/306813588
Obviously it doesnt matter most heroes with no real escape mechanism wont survive a gank you cant give brood bkb manta and expect to turn around a 3man gank in enemy territory. I never said its a go-to Itembuild and if you prefer your standard bkb brood then do yours. Its something i experienced and i share, no need to be mean or no reason to troll
Brood is actually good with this play style. It's kinda like nyx, just one shot something and go push lanes or disrupt enemy farm. If you wanted a brood with items like manta and shit, rather choose a different hero.
Explain smurfing to me please cause people have different associations with the word smurf
nono i dont prefer bkb n shit, at least with dagon etc brood have impact ! everybody did that back in d1
Lol I tried this on my other account to test it. I must say, it's quite fun. First time brood lol
How did I do? http://dotabuff.com/matches/312524103
I'm just kidding your score was pretty good given the circumstances
Brood it's just not a hero that can win a game that's lost
I broke top 50 with this account http://dotabuff.com/players/82211644 however i have not played on it for a while so it is not in the top 50 anymore but i guess if i would play one game wi ould be still there and i was place 29th. And I mostly used standard brood builds! This time im just gonna try with another attempt how far i can go in top 50.
@Pilot You seemed to do great but for short advice, i have not really seen your game but make sure you always use the dagon when you can even when you cannot kill anybody with it and of course higher priority targets are always welcome. Also with brood you need to know what you invest your money on. For example BoTs is not really the best item on brood when you are losing and aquilla is not necessary (a basilus is sufficient, you dont need those extra stats). Especially in this build you need to get your core items fast and dominate the enemy jungle as soon as possible. You are basically the lone-force that keeps the enemy away from their own jungle so they cannot higher their gpm by farming in the offlane or the jungle. The only thing left is your enemy team to farm on :D
Either way, Keep it up!
Oh, alright, so I could'be skimped on items such as wand/aquila/BoTs and go straight for other items?
Also, is it generally better to go for veil first before an ethereal blade? I'm kind of liking this brood build (I have never played brood prior to this), so I'd like to practice this a little more.
Btw, any tips on dominating the enemy jungle? Over 90% of my games with this account are hard/core support games, so I don't really have much practice with jungling/controlling the jungle. Advice on this regard would be helpful :)
And good luck on top 50!
You should manage your money wisely, stick is not a bad item and wand isnt either but upgrading a basilus just because you can isnt necessarily a wise decision. It doesnt matter if you go veil or ethblade first since both of them are great! Usually when I have dagon and I am behind i tend to go for the cheaper Veil elsewise i opt for ethblade.
Dominating jungle. First of all rushing the dagon is very important. If you have the dagon soulring around 10 minutes as an offlane hero thats amazing! Then it is to important to know the differences between the 2 jungles.
For me it seems easier to rotate within the sentinel jungle between camps and between mid and safelane when the first tower is down you can control the 3 creep camps with ease and as rule of thumb anyone has to look out since you should have nets everywhere and you should rarely show yourself. The scourge jungle is a little bit easier since you can farm 2 camps with ease without even the tower being down. And if you manage to get 2 towers you can dominate the whole enemy jungle not jsut 3 camps as on sentinel side with ease.
Either way make sure to use dagon as often as possible and show people whos the boss :p And what makes micro really easy is the all-non-hero units hotkey which basically hotkey all your spiders and you just sent all those spiders to a camp and A-click them to improve farm. You should watch good broodplayers and get some inspiration and practise her.
Ive been practising lasthitting with spiders only so people wont see me where exactly i am (important against heroes such as bara which will just charge you or ganks in general)
Anyways I hope I could help you with anything and maybe check out this vod of me playing brood => http://www.twitch.tv/iwin4poland/c/2899260
edit: http://www.twitch.tv/iwin4poland/c/2953015 heres one more
I might gonna put up some more vods of brood but i havent been broadcasting/recording that much recently!
Good luck with your games!
There is another player that does this that plays at a very high level, I will try and dig up his account.
http://dotabuff.com/players/86042254/matches?hero=broodmother&game_mode=&match_type=real
I tried this out and it didn't work. Maybe I'll try it out a couple more times before dismissing it. God knows something can work in dota 7 times in a row then you get crushed later on with it.
BTW top 50 can take several hours to update, if not days, and I see that Atilili posted the top 50 shortly after you asked. Someone could post an updated top 50 broodmother? You play in Very High, you might just stand a chance.
In the bottom is written "updated less than a minute ago" so i doubt about it.
Edit: I also checked certain players how many games of brood they have played now and compared since I saw waga playing brood and I figured out it was his 41st game of brood and in the screenshot its the same.
It might be that my account hasn't that high MMR yet or what I rather think is that there is another entry requirement.
I've read somewhere that one needs 30 games with a certain hero as well as 200 games in general played. However couldnt find it anymore :/
Also I think brood needs a slight buff, I mean lastgame I played I had yasha/orchid/basher/bkb and couldnt even kill a hero with just a shiva.
You guys want to discuss possible buffs/nerfs/tweaks on about brood ? :D
Your DBR is zero because the account began after DBR froze in January. Unless/until it updates you can't get a top50 score.
Jason did say that Dotabuff is working to find a way to implement hero scores for everyone who wants them. I hope this will include a new updating DBR.
http://dotabuff.com/topics/2013-09-01-hero-rating-or-lack-of
Due to those informations i guess its useless to get in the current top 50 now anyway. Thanks for the info :P
Someone was looking for that thread, yes it is :P tried it its better, also more surpiring cause you can walk freely in base and cliffs to annoy jnglers
ehm... you have one game with that build that is fairly recent? how does that jusfity anything... besides its a pub, I've won pubs by building 4x midas. Doesn't say anything at all.
I play top pages, and everyother game against people that are known in the scene. I have a bunch of games with that prepatch. And during prepatch it was strng already, now to have more mobility and sneakyness the build prevails even more.
I don't have to justify myself, for random people. No need to trashtalk me, I am just contributing
You shouldn't entertain people like Wacoo :/
I'm pretty sure he wins 80% of the time by building 4x Midas.
I tried some more games with dagon and such, now you can actually camp the enemy fountain in the middle of a game with a ward and wait for a hero to respawn. Build is way way better!
Or you can harrass somebody harshly and they jsut wait for him to walk back to fountain
or you can just not be a faggot and not pick a brood
edit: lol, now i just saw who im talking to. carry on.
Build's legit cuz you just run in, click your combo, and they can't do anything back. Eth blade/dagon both have good range.
He's like shotgun morphling except more retard proof
Btw Arka I already have you added but I haven't asked for queue invite cuz I was playing with some other friends. If you have room I'll join in on the fun, if you don't mind.
And yea Wacoo he's probably 10x better than you. Is it so painful to your ego to admit some people are good (better) at this game?
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Hey guys I just wanted to share a build I'm currently playing the always losing broodmother. My build ? Dagon 5 into Veil/Ethereal Blade.
http://dotabuff.com/players/133212901/matches?hero=broodmother&game_mode=&match_type=
I play on Very High Skillbracket and I feel like im playing very serious except when I play broodmother. I'm nowhere near serious. I'm just goofing around all game long, yet it is super effective. I'm a little astonished how well that build goes!
Has anyone tried that build or does anyone give any comments about it ? (and yes I'm a little bit bragging:d)