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My Best INVOKER Replay( Dominated a Clearly LOST Game) ! ( Advice - Comments Good Or Bad Are Acceptable!) in General Discussion
MADARASINDAHOUSE

    *** FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LOVE TO THANK " Grimorum " Who inspired me to start playing invoker abour a year ago!
    You can tell me If My Level with invoker is good or bad i would like to see advice and comments!!

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/345472839

    (One of the most difficult games for me to win.. i was really playing Alone but i was doing great.. other team was 4 Queue Clan
    and they stomped my team in early and mid game... i didnt gave up i really played so good to let them Win... so
    there is the Link for the game.. *** I WOULD LOVE SOME COMMENTS AND CRITISISE AND ADVICE FROM PROS***
    Thank you for your time!)

    <3

    BadKernel
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          The problem of the enemy team is, that they have no strong carry. Naix, Doom and Invoker can carry much harder than a Centaur

          MADARASINDAHOUSE

            Yeah But.. 0-12 naix 0-15 mirana and a doom farming all game and dont help us.... the point is that i did my best to hold em while my team was trying to farm a bit.. yeah i agree with u

            BadKernel

              "mirana and a doom farming all game and dont help us2" LOL, all your early kills were thanks to mirana, you only sunstrike on stunned enemy :P

              Grimorum

                Invokelicious, first of all, I am glad I was helpful to you. Your invoker is decent, well above average. I have many constructive criticisms. You are not bad, I make many mistakes too.

                Practice last hits
                Recommended Skill build: EQR. Much better for farming with spirits and rune controlling. Heal yourself in between attacks.
                ERE only if team ganks hardcore.
                5:20 buy potions and TP instead of stick
                Control runes with spirits and yourself at 5:48
                8:10 invoked tornado, were you attempting ghost walk?
                Remember to carry TP all the time (SUPER IMPORTANT)
                12:50 use snap instead of Blast. It costs less mana and has lower CD. Other situations use blast
                13:09, forgot cold snap?
                20:22 cast blast sooner. heroes like AM, qop, storm will blink away if you dont. They can also force staff away
                29:40 don't forget spirits
                EMP with 3 wex is garbage, EMP is only decent with 5 wex, but it is still weak at 31 minutes.
                32:00 that 4 spell combo is only good at lvl 21+.
                34:00 you have aghanim, always have spirits out before battle.
                35:10 invoke before activating phase
                Combos are decent, much better than the average invoker
                3 wex is enough, 5 is overkill. You give up better spirits/wall/snap/blast and tornado's lift for a weak late game emp, long meteor, longer tornado, bit better alacrity, disarm is situational, and bit more MS. If you had a good void on your team, then maybe consider wex over quas.
                43:30, meteor was too early because your tornado lift was improved by quas. Adjust your timing
                when you skill quas. Blast was too late because you didn't have enough quas for the lift.
                43:42 remember to guide SS with euls, and setup wall afterward
                Place meteor closer to you, not directly under target because blast will push targets back.

                sano

                  Well Grimorum since you've made an analysis of his game perhaps would you make one of a game I played?
                  I like Invoker, but I don't have many games or practice enough to be good; I'm actually pretty bad. But I played a very nice game yesterday in a lobby with friends and wanted your review of my Invoker. The game was purely for fun but it ended being pretty epic, over 60 min and throne almost falling down. Because it's a private game, I'll have to upload it here.
                  Game stats: http://i.imgur.com/P4hvlKL.png
                  Replay: http://www.4shared.com/file/j7pCTc8V/345367431.html
                  PS: didn't buy Refresher due to lack of balls

                  MADARASINDAHOUSE

                    @BadKernel i killed 2 or 3 times with mirana arrows... he casted 20 arrows and he hit only 5-6..
                    yeah that was the point... but this mirana isnt experienced for Mid gang/roaming gameplay.. so he can help me dominate mid...
                    anyway thanks

                    MADARASINDAHOUSE

                      Dear Grimorum,
                      Thanks for spend your time for checking my game..and thats awesome!
                      i still remember that ghost walk atempt and cause of preasure i casted tornado wrong:D yeah:D
                      also i will keep in mind the spirit farm and control rune..sounds interesting!
                      Also about my timing.. i will practice so i can cast combos on time :)
                      About Blast i know that many heroes got blink or miranas leap can escape my combo.. i almost never miss it when im not in preasure and i got time to time my blast and disable enemy from blink/leap away... maybe i got to practice it under preasure too :P :)
                      i've been playing invoker more seriously since June 2013 so i think i will got time to make improvements:D

                      I Will Look upto improve My Overall gameplay including your usefull and respected criticisms above that made my way " clear" on what to improve
                      and learn from my mistakes.. i would also add that im only fully satisfied with my Sunstrike performance:D
                      Thanks again for this and i wish the best to you!

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                      MooMooLand

                        dat booty

                        MADARASINDAHOUSE

                          HAHAHAHA <3
                          I love her booty too:D

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                          Grimorum

                            @Sano
                            I have migraines, neck feels tired, and head feels heavy. I still have many coursework to do. Maybe another time.

                            Totenkreuz

                              Grim can you analyze my Invoking when you can? That'd be cool.

                              LRA

                                i Have i high win rate with meepo that your invoker. lol :D

                                http://dotabuff.com/matches/343763900

                                MADARASINDAHOUSE

                                  thats a topic About invoker and not Meepo...wp ur meepo is good anyway.. make a post about it

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                                  wawa

                                    Check out my matches with invoker. (Im still in the normal bracket) ive been practicing with invoker for 2yrs now when i used to play dota 1 and was inspired to play him by Grimorum and Iceiceice :P
                                    http://dotabuff.com/matches/325396220 Captains Draft
                                    http://dotabuff.com/matches/339497675 All-Pick

                                    any Tips or criticism are welcome :)

                                    Most positive attitude

                                      ROFL, funny how every trash-talked his game. Grimorum appears, praises his invoker to be above average, everybody loses their mind, ROFl.

                                      Terrible

                                        @OP, how did you manage 1.25cs/min with Invoker? What is the secret to being that bad?

                                        MADARASINDAHOUSE

                                          @ :) You did really well! also i tried Midas before 8th minute and its working great! try pass 50% win with invo

                                          MADARASINDAHOUSE

                                            @terrible if u are talking about me... you should watch the game and see why..
                                            anyway i try my best to improve my lasthits with invoker dont be that bad with me wtf!

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                                            BadKernel

                                              very nice aim for sunstrike!
                                              hey try practice some combos like does this guy
                                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Uf18y6ljM
                                              ;)

                                              MADARASINDAHOUSE

                                                @BadKernel i practice with bots i already managed to Make
                                                Tornado - EMP -Meteor-Blast-refresher-Meteor-Blast- EMP -Force Staff-Ice wall etc. In exactly as fast as Cook does in his video:D
                                                I Also practiced The combo that makes with magina and hex Instead of EMP He used sunstrike
                                                when i have free time i play alone practice mode using combos and try to cast as fast as possible
                                                :DDD
                                                Thanks for your time

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