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Slammer

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/371780705 I really enjoy playing Meepo but I found, and Dotabuff says, that he is very strong against Phantom Lancer. If you are any good at Meepo I highly recommend you use him as a reliable counter to PL as I have used him quite a few times for this reason now.

    Main points:

    -The net will prevent PL from going invisible.
    -The burst damage from Meepo will overwhelm the tankiest illusions from a 5 Meepo poof (you can dominate him at lvl 4 onwards when you get another Meepo so he shouldn't get too farmed).
    -The burst damage will at least get Phantom Lancer very low in hp. Perma-net him so he can't get away or go invisible and geostrike him, or another poof to seal the deal.

    The only problem you will probably get into in terms of PL is one of your Meepos getting diffused. It can be difficult but netting PL whilst running the diffused meepo to safetly and geostriking him will make sure the straggler survives.

    Sorry if this was obvious or this is wasting space but I've never had any real reason to post here so IT'S SOMETHING!

    Also Meepo is great at containing true blinkers like QoP and Anti-Mage.

    Slammer

      Also I know you have to gank PL to counter him I know, I know. But this hero is great at securing ganks on him with minimal need for dust (you will only need it if your net is a bit slow).

      Terrible

        low skill doto inc.

        Slammer

          Aw come on... anyone saying something like that would devalue my thread but a smurf... that's just insulting lol.

          emerikax

            i am 2 old to play meepo

            Slammer

              You are never too old!

              emerikax

                my eyes cant take more abuse each time i see meepo + heroes they literally force me to close them

                Tento komentář byl upraven
                Terrible

                  Except that this shitty account plays in the VH bracket while you are still struggling to crack into the high bracket.

                  See game. See AM + PL, looks like AM got the safelane farm, is this a guide for shutting down carries that don't get any farm?

                  What are you going to do against a PL that actually farms? You know that he can split up his illusions, and if he uses manta/dopple/lance he will have another illusion army up within seconds.

                  Carries that are focused toward dominating early-mid game through either ganks or pushing + dust are much better counters.

                  waku waku

                    when he gets really farmed he does not have to show up at all, what will you do then?

                    Emilimia

                      simpler version:
                      pick bh
                      shit on pl early
                      enjoy free coins

                      Tento komentář byl upraven
                      [Lk].Zano

                        Remember to always type in allchat "chemotherapy successful" after you win a game against a PL.

                        Slammer

                          ommunity toxin ♥11 hours ago
                          when he gets really farmed he does not have to show up at all, what will you do then?

                          One shot his illusion army with 5 Meepos poofing, then he can bring another army and as long as its within 6 seconds of the previous, they'll suffer the same fate. When the real PL shows face/when we find him, he will be perma-netted and my team will wade in.

                          Slammer

                            @Terrible, the only way he will win is if the game is a stomp in the enemies favour, I know exactly how PL works.

                            Born

                              mate to be perfectly honest, if you are left vs most heroes 1v1 situation you will beat them with meepo 5v1.
                              so just putting lancer as the example may have some truth to it, but its also irrelevant.

                              BenaoLifedancer

                                i usually used sf mid to rape pl mid/late game but with so many buffs on so many different heroes sf is just not a viable option now...
                                i would say the best to do vs him is to send a lich to the offlane with someone else and make sure pl gets very little income then go for a pushing mid game strat

                                Ples Mercy

                                  Meepo is not 2 shabby against PL, but why would you want to do that if you can pick heroes like bounty and timber? ._.

                                  Luxon

                                    countering a hero with a hero that has 110 counters. a so-so+ meepo player can make this work in pubs but it's less reliable than PL himself.

                                    Tento komentář byl upraven
                                    Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                      110 counters? Lol wut? Also yeah he is not terrible against him but more because he is rarely played and there are better heroes to counter PL.

                                      Ples Mercy

                                        Well, since we got that out of the way, how about we adress the real reason why he made this thread:
                                        -> http://dotabuff.com/matches/371780705

                                        Srsly, midas PL and AM on the same team, you didnt win because you were skilled, but more because the enemies were fucking retarded bro.

                                        Rise

                                          or grab a kunkka/sven and cleave...

                                          ^_^

                                            you know sam pl can diffuse the net just sayin

                                            Born

                                              ^he cant. wtf.
                                              he can manta out of it tho

                                              AddidasБатка

                                                just Gank him and you'll be fine.

                                                Slammer

                                                  I know there are other ways to counter PL but I just like Meepo's skills vs him. They are good at preventing PL from having a good time even if well farmed haha. The problem tends to arise when the other team has a hero that can quickly destroy a Meepo but that's a topic for another time.