General DiscussionTop 10 best pushers?

Furion or tinker .-. if you mean towers then its Shaman, Dp, Warlock, Enigma is meh with his minions

Tiny with aghs can melt towers

Tinker is more of a counterpusher.

Death Prophet,Nature Prophet,Pugna,Rhasta. Also with some items really good pushers can be Anti mage,Drow Ranger,Sf.. etc.

Agreed because March of The Machines cant do damage to towers so he only speeds up the creep wave/pushes creep wave

They need to make a guy named Pusher Prohpet

Don't forget Veno.

Tiny is definelty the best pusher of them all. He 5shots t3 towers, and 4 shots melee baracks with aghs, which is unmatchable by any other hero.
Pugna is good too but, not close at all.
Stacked druid too.

#1 NP
#2 Lycan
#3 Brood

then tier-2
kotl veno ss dp pl pugna tinker or anyone with decent spamable AOE.

Q: why they tier-1
A: The art of pushing, stealth and unexpectedness. when 9 heroes team fight happen, lets steal some tower and rax.

i put troll in tier-1.5. we need u in teamfight

jugg can be a great pusher too

once saw a pro match 2 years ago. whole team pushers.
jugg and chen and some random heroes.
the core of their strategy is jugg max his 2nd skill first . healing ward.

Why the fuck no one mentions luna?

Invoker Forge Spirits, maxed out Quas outranges towers.

If you are talking about fastest pusher then it will Lone Druid Bear with AC/Deso or Tiny with Agh AC/Deso, not sure which one is faster

my bet on fastest pusher. troll.
should be faster than tiny. given the same amount of gold for items.

suppose a tiny with scept+ac+deso take down a melee rax with 5 attacks in 5 sec.
then a trol with only 1 divine rapier take down melee rax (with many attacks) in 3-4 sec.

Tony with aghs
Luna the base destroyer
Lycan
Nature's prophet
Bone Clinkz
Lone Druid
Phantom Lancer
Carry Naga Siren

Luna is the best for early game pushes, LD/Tony melt towers later, NP/Clinkz/Lycan/PL/Naga are great splitpushers

Shoutout to lesh + a wave clearer

troll hands down

Luna is probably my favourite hero, and she is great when she can glaive the entire base + Manta in about 5 seconds, but she's slow at pushing early game IMO, and has been made worse since 6.79. She is great for hurting the enemy and pushing your wave don't get me wrong, but once she is there it takes her so long to damage that tower.

Tranquils used to be a great buy for Luna and opened a lot more possibilities early game and as did extra gold/xp for jungle creep. If the lane was getting unsafe for squishy Luna you could jungle and tranqs between camps to get that bit of gold for morbid mask and then continue doing so to get Yasha. Tranquils also gave Luna everything she needed for so little, (armor / regen). You could just stand in XP range and regen and that was fine, because you are a nuker early game anyway.

DP on the other hand takes out a tower with ease, rarely having to take much damage herself, and usually taking out anything around it too.

Late game, any hard carry with BF can push almost as good as Luna on creep waves...but once that enemy T3 is gone there is no one who can even come near to the Luna base destruction!

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you are wierd. did anybody ask for a guide on how to play luna?

Darkness couldn't believe no one had mentioned luna as a pusher and I am explaining Luna's weaknesses as a pusher with rationale. What was so weird about that? Ok I went a bit deep on detail, but you have to around here because someone is always waiting to pick holes in any generalisation around here!

I can express my opinion in a more traditional dotabuff approach if you like, maybe you'll understand where I am coming from better then. I think it goes something like this...

omg darkness u normal bracket piece of trash. You're such a noob, Luna is the worst pusher. <insert trash talk about win rate here>

i vote for weaver

Leshrac and Chen combo! Take towers really really early; if you're just going for towers, you don't even have to micro that much :D

meeposs

Shadow Fiend. Clearing creep waves in seconds and with Manta towers will melt fast

Lycan with necro 3 and vlads and deso can backdoor any tower within 10 seconds.
as well as meepo with aghanim's, ethereal and treads.

Tiny with Aghs, Cuirass, Manta clears rax in 4 hits.

Im going to mention Tinker he isnt thr best but he is a good pusher. God I love Tinker. He is my best hero

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Phantom Lancer: Cute thread.

i find it very funny that almost no one mentioned phantom lancer

lesh can clear a wave in 2 secs and melts tower with edict pretty fast

In what context? Tons of heroes have great pushing ability with proper items, others have innate pushing abilities. I have a list of a few but I want to highlight Razor since no one mentioned. His ult with aghs can hit buildings and with refresher he can do massive damage to buildings fast. The only thing is it always hits the lowest hp target first so you need to clear out enemy heroes and creeps first. But that's a big reason I love Razor, he can mid carry, he can late carry, he can go tanky build, he can be a pusher. He can fill a lot of roles depending on what your team needs and what items you get.

Good pushers regardless of items:
Phantom Lancer
Death Prophet
Nature's Prophet

Good pushers with a couple key items:
Razor (aghs and refresher means double lightning storm that damages towers)
Tiny (aghs)

Good pushers when farmed:
Luna (highest potential dps in game, can down a tower and rax in seconds)
Troll (that ult! lots of dmg)
Lycan
Drow (her ult makes killing towers fast and easy when left alone, she might be one of the best tower killers mid game with just a couple dmg items)

Leshrac and Prophet are the best pushers imo

Andy Murray

lion

Assgalor

there are different pushers excel at different stages of game.

tiny is late game pusher. troll , lycan , luna et.al. are good mid-game tower pusher

if you want to take down all six t1 t2 towers within 10 minutes. you need some one like brood ss lesh jugg.

@ wasted penguinz
no one mentioned him cuz he isn't that good of a pusher like the ones mentinied above. How the hell he matches with a tiny, troll, luna, lycan, ld or some stuff.
IF you watched LGD.cn vs Alliance TI3 the baserace, the alch did 7x the damage than the pl did with full stacked illusions on the tower (he had rapier tho).

y u no giff kotol credit.
kotol BoT best push

Morphling

Leshrac and pugna

Retards... pugna is the fastest pusher

^ can pugna solo take down a tower with back door protection ? not remotely possible

So leshrac and pugna are attacking a tower. TP, bkb, kill them. Dead pusher.

Best pushers have escape options or are really powerful/hard to kill.

Broodmother's Spiders with Lycan's Howl :D

For a second I thought vandis was back :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J0eIPJCEs8

Enigma !

The following heroes shine at pushing during these phases:

Early Game:
Chen, Enigma, Pugna, Rhasta, DP, Leshrac, NP, Brood

Mid Game:
Lycan, Invoker, NP, Troll, Luna, LD, Brood, Rhasta

Late Game:
TB, Lycan, NP, Tiny, Troll, LD, Rhasta

6 slotted tiny with alacrity and bloodlust will outpush any combination of heroes

12 slotted LD, not tiny ;p