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Grom

    Hey guys, I browse this forum quite a bit and was wondering if any tb players can help on this one. I ran into this game: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/892202533

    and there were probably a million things I could have done better but I was wondering if I itemized correctly? That team I was facing didn't have a lot of physical damage so I saw no point in stacking bflys. Was this the correct choice? Or heart would have been better?

    Maybe I should have just gotten bkb early and fight before tinker got farmed and they got their hexes but the main question is if stacking skadis is ever viable and optimal?

    Thanks

    PROTECTHIMFROMWHATHEWANTS

      omg they got voker and u dont have a bkb? RIP :'(

      cdt

        definitely should have gone bkb

        imo, stacking skadis is extremely situational, maybe if you are up against shitloads of physical damage and you need the extra mana if you're constantly splitpushing.

        I could be wrong though, thoughts?

        steakcxhop99

          maybe go hex so get more chance to kil tinker o invoker? jz my opinion though.

          matrice

            2 skady ok, 3 nope
            You really have 0 damage
            (2 skady + tarasque not ok aswell)

            A #1 that deal no damage is useless, you'd rather want to be full glass canon, then full tank, when you took so much creep

            Arek Akashi

              Yeap Hex is a really strong vs tinker even after manta

              option 2 : you can make diffusal (specially early) and use it when he uses ghost + always remember that your ultimate can ministun and prevent him from tping

              Tip : you can ward map corners works vs tinker or ( brood if you have gem ) http://i.imgur.com/2wKh3sK.jpg

              Guts

                They had no hard carries, so the game went on really long. I'll make it simple and short. No stacking skadi's is never optimal and viable. You only see pros doing it because they trolling and stomping the game. In that game you should have went bkb and hex. and maybe even refresher.

                Grom

                  Yeah not getting bkb early was probably the biggest mistake because instead of trying to rat, we could have just won fight and then take towers. Probably wont go this tank build again and focus on other options like hex if I face a team like that again.

                  1heroman

                    Oohhhohohoooo the cancer has spread! TB topics everywhere now!

                    steakcxhop99

                      rat doto best doto XD

                      Fay

                        You should've gone serious mode as TB if they have Timbersaw, not stacking skadi like that.
                        He can wreck you solo.

                        jo~

                          ??
                          stacking skadi is perfectly fine if enemy is mostly magic damage, its just that its abit pointless against a fat tinker since hex insta kills.

                          Fay

                            yeah but where the damage come from?

                            I've tried 2 hearts PL vs a good timbersaw, I didn't stand a chance.
                            That's not how to play illusion heroes effectively, maybe?

                            It sound a bit stupid but i had to resolve into getting BKB for PL and won the game.
                            If you want teamfight TB, at least you need daedalus with or without BKB

                            jo~

                              what u mean damage. skadi is +25 agi, butter is 30 agi. butter against physical dps, skadi for magic.

                              who buys 2 hearts on pl lol.

                              Primordial Soup

                                I normally get bkb when they have a Tinker.

                                Fay

                                  Burning did actually, i saw him built 2 hearts in tournament as PL 1 year ago.
                                  I believe it was the match where PL suddenly become popular in competitive scene when he vs Zhou's AM (G-League)
                                  And like noob always do, i tried to copy him but of course failed miserably.

                                  I didn't mention butterfly at all.. but butterfly add 30 more damage and attack speed
                                  Edit: Oh you meant for illusion.

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                                  jo~

                                    the damage and attack speed doesnt apply for illusions.
                                    2hearts pl is bad anyone who does that is misinformed.

                                    matrice

                                      yup, tarasque + well placed skady in inventory is way better for pl

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