nulls + blade mail gives really good attack damage for it's cost as well as giving you lots of stats so that you can also do even more damage by turning your HP into damage with BM.
it's not done all the time but its believe it's gotten against razor / dp for example, heroes that can't control their damage
if you don't go midas you should go maelstrom to replace the item that lets you farm in the downtime. even as a ganking NP you -will- have downtime. the good thing about maelstrom vs midas is that it also lets you fight as it gives good damage early on.
blink is a good initation item since shadow blade got nerfed. sit in the trees, use sprout for vision, then blink + hex or orchid.
scepter is shit on prophet, theres better items out there
hex is way better than deso for ganking too
Lately I saw bulldog going 3 nulls -> blademail -> maelstorm. Blink is one of the items that suits almost everyone, good initiation/escape and harder to counter than shadow blade, which is nerfed as you said
I just read the scepter description and I think you might be right, doesnt seem to be so worth it (would provide some good hp/stats tho)
Thought about deso because its good for ganks AND pushes, even considered going mom for the sake of attack/movement speed
with 3 nulls + blademail you can manfight anyone 15 mins into the game, BUT getting a really early orchid (like 10-11 min) brings way more to the table imo
Yea, orchid seems legit because the items used to build it would help a lot with ganking pre 10 min mark, I think I gotta try both these variations on some unranked games
I rushed dagon, open with null and 3 mana pots and with decent jungle spawns you can farm it in like 7:30-8 mins, then go treads nulls and blademail, now thats effective ganging man, upgrade dagon after blademail and nulls.
^he will.
i just went to low prio and went 3 nulls + pt + orchid>ez kills>blademail+maelstrom>mjollnir+skadi+daedalus.
too ez.
i will post the link with my awesome furion when it gets shown up on dotabaufff.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/902451820
Dagon is fun but I didnt really take this game too serious and our setup was retarded, some of these guys failed but its not like I cared about that
Dagon seemed to be quite good vs techies tho (i should have gotten orchid along with that), sprout, few autoattacks and finish off with dagon, later on when he saw me he just suicided right away lol.
I played rather meh, didnt push much, when I tried I died
boots + blink + orchid works
if you want solo kills: phase boots, orchid and madness
easy kills unless your enemy has force staff or quelling blade
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So I have played a few furions games on pubs but at my 3,6k bracket my team will usually start to feed before I can even do something and of course will blame me because "gg fura no gank" (I noticed I have mana problems early and engaging isnt easy unless im close and can walk up here) but I wanted to get some build that was more usefull early (so no midas, figured that out).
I thought about rushing an orchid if they got some easy pick offs supps or heroes like ember because it gives early mana regen and would be rather good for ganking, considered something like this boots->orchid->blink->scepter->deso
If they dont have many heroes to silence I thought about dagon and then the build would be similar
Also whats with that 3 null and blademail build? How come everyone does that, even bulldong?