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General DiscussionIs force staff still relevant?

Is force staff still relevant? in General Discussion
FlyingSquirrel

    When I started playing Dota 2 around the beta time, force staff was everywhere, nowadays blink dagger in the thing.

    Is force staff still relevant? What do you lot think?

    SalaciousCrome

      When was forcestaff never not relevant? While purchased less it has great positional advantages combined with other items. The forcestaff or Euls can be used in conjuction with blink and forcestaff is better than blinks on most Int or supportive heroes.

      FlyingSquirrel

        I agree, though it doesn't explain why I haven't seen it in the last 40+ games other than on my hero.

        jo~

          daggers better against fv

          Totentanz to The King: M ...

            It's easier to build and has beneficial stats for most support heroes.

            Born

              i prefer it more than dagger most of the times.

              Dipshit

                Depends on what you're up against and/or why you're getting it. If you're getting something for initiating with, blink dagger is typically king; while if you just need mobility for dealing with an enemy, force staff is usually king(due to not being disabled by getting hit).

                Though it's also helped that since the "beta", blink dagger's mana cost was removed, was enabled for pudge/venge, and the cooldown was reduced by 2 seconds.

                SO LOYAL I DESERVE 2 GIRL...

                  Force staff vs void is the shit! I get the lulz from making him slide out his chrono

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                  Dire Wolf

                    You don't see it cus your mmr is low. Didn't you mention in another thread you are like 2500? Apologies if I am way off. But it's a very popular item on windranger and pudge in my games.

                    SalaciousCrome

                      "I agree, though it doesn't explain why I haven't seen it in the last 40+ games other than on my hero."

                      That's a disadvantage of your bracket, as I explained to you in a previous post people associate the wrong items with mobility and positioning. If you look at Sam's (ICEFROG IS SO FUCKING RET..) or Sam's (my games) there is a forcestaff or two in almost every game.

                      MaTT

                        I love force staff, people don't realize how epic mobility items are.

                        I just realized how epic Euls on Axe is :D

                        FlyingSquirrel

                          Essentially only I use it in my bracket because I appreciate its value, that is sad lol

                          SalaciousCrome

                            87.50% winrate as Axe with Euls

                            FlyingSquirrel

                              Euls -> Berserker -> Battle Hunger early must be very legendary