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General Discussionhow is this winnable??!?

how is this winnable??!? in General Discussion
Mr. Nice Guy

    http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1172780498
    they said you can carry with chen at 2k mmr ... started with 12-0-5 or smt like this in first 15-20 mins. then they started to go group... lost the game.

    Mandalorian

      Story of the trenches man. If u are way above that rating, u trully can carry with any hero. If ur not, then u'll stay there. Learn to win games, not just win early game. When they start to group up, then when the real Dota beginns.

      BenaoLifedancer

        what he said! thats when you start to splitpush them to hell and move around like fucking spiderman :)

        p2d

          tiny carry without io really isnt amazing

          Vertoxity

            You went lategame against lategame heroes. You can't win like that with Tiny and your team pick.

            Why you lost:

            You didn't finished when you had your advantage.

            Alpha

              40 min game. 10k hero damage zeus. nuff said

              Xero

                4 of their team had shadow blades. Did your team buy the vision needed to deal with that.
                My experience in normal skill/trench if you and your team didnt buy sentries or dust that'll be how you lost midgame and then lategame too.
                How many of your team got surprised solo by an invis doom?

                Miracle`-

                  @1234

                  Really if so pro you can get out of that bracket if not you stay trench thats wht you mean right?

                  And i thiught dota is team game i will see how dendi wins 1v5 against 2k mmr? Anything else trashtalker?

                  Miracle`-

                    @iambanana

                    I feel you man.. Its always that teameates are bad and utter crap... Scrubs everywhere... Especially in australia i probably have more than 70 matches to show you that were not winnable just cuz of teamates.I will post them when im bored xD

                    Steror

                      ^Hope you're being sarcastic. 1v5 against 2k mmr is easy for anyone around and above 4k

                      Miracle`-

                        Hhah 1v5 you going to win? Ok

                        Vertoxity

                          I can win 90% of games as sf in 2k.

                          jus chillen

                            ^as any hero

                            amarin1492

                              I escaped 2k bracket and so can you. Here's how to get out of 2k bracket:
                              1) play a a mid-game carry (ursa, qop, ta, etc) and go mid or jungle (don't go bot or top).

                              2) pick off heroes who are by themselves and don't have map awareness. Blink or shadow blade is key for this. Find pick-offs constantly. In this bracket, there will always be some hero by themselves or with a teammate who can't save them. People don't usually don't buy force staffs or ghost scepters. Know common ward spots, and play around them with positioning or smoke

                              3) Encourage your team to push when possible. Smart pushing can win games.

                              4) Sometimes, your teammates will throw the game no matter what you do. But if you play well, your winrate will be above 50% on average, and you will move out of the trench.

                              Vertoxity

                                ^
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                                Not really. At least not for me.

                                Mr. Nice Guy

                                  i've tryed to finish faster,but i couldnt. i was the only one pushing,the rest of my team was just running in circles. axe was feeding,nothing else. he didnt knew how to use blink or q. never used them. neither the ulti. just spaming second. you know,when you are the only one pushing,they will come after you and you have to stop. at least if my team would push somewhere else...lion had dust sometimes,but we didnt rlly need it. i was killing sniper with stun+toss+2 hits,he hadnt time to use sb. wd and luna bought sb at the last push,as a last item.

                                  Mr. Nice Guy

                                    i can win 1 vs 5 with meepo pretty ez,but how can i win this with a hero which can t be in 5 places at once?