definitely supposed to run min 120 fps.
my pc (cpu) is weaker and i run 120 fps at high video settings while streaming
AMD Radeon drivers does not play nice with doto 2. If you can switch to NVIDiA please try.
i have a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 never used, perfect state for sell if you want.
yeah i bought it cuz my gpu 545 goes to +100°C everytime i play doto (30fps max) i was so happy when i got it, sad part was when i realised it wasnt compatible with my motherboard .. ..
Try using Gamebooster and customize autoexec.cfg file too it might help.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=339319323
http://www.coderbag.com/Programming-C/Disable-CPU-Core-Parking-Utility
Disable background anti-virus, close Chrome browser will help too if there's no background program running. Also lastly make sure your Intel CPU is running at full speed and the cores aren't parked (low power usage). I have gave a friend my AMD 6970 card, and he doesn't get full FPS cuz he's on 2 cores (Intel Core Duo x6800) he got like 40-60 fps. Upgrading his rig to quad core gave him 60-90 after tweaks. Overclocking the cores by 20-30% gave him 90-120 fps but he doesn't have a 120hz monitor so we stopped OC'ing it.
In terms of gaming in dota 2 there's a huge gap between 40-60fps to 60+. Once you hit 90+ fps mins. it doesn't really notice anything more. I'm playing on 144hz myself, you won't notice the FPS as much as when you play LoL & BF4.
^^ I tried literally everything from installing 3 different drivers to Steam beta version, the PC looks normal and functions normally. I have no idea what is going on, but it's not normal. I got 46 fps again in a game today.
- Check cpu and video card temperature
- Format and reinstall windows to exclude software problems
You need to start running some tests to find out where the throttle is, I highly suspect that the CPU isn't the issue here.
Also from my own personal experience I usually avoid buying cheaper OC'd products as they can prove troublesome in the long run. e.g. I would only buy an OC'd higher range card as they come with slightly more efficient cooling.
^ Nvm what I said about 46 fps, I got as low as 33 right now in a game. I literally want to cry.
It could potentially be a heating throttle if you're computer isn't well cooled, it could be something as simple as a setting in your drivers that isn't working correctly and causing the issue.
Could you take some screenshots of temps during games.
Also your drivers may be forcing settings, over riding your in game settings that cause the game to perform unstably. Something to check out.
There could be many different issues causing this. Have you tried monitoring GPU/CPU/Memory usage while the game is running? Have you killed off any unwanted running processes that could be hogging system resources?
Do not listen to the people saying your AMD card is the issue, because they have literally no clue. I am running the game at 100+fps with a 7970 and i7 4790k @ 2560x1440.
^ Guys there is no heating or dust problem, the pc is literally new, I just bought it. The temperatures are fine, there is no throttle whatsoever.
The temperatures are 50 and respectively 49 for CPU and GPU when I play Dota 2.
And I monitored the memory CPU usage and everything seems ok. All processes that run should run.
Try creating a local private lobby, spawning 9 heroes (+ your hero choice will be 10) then spam some spells all over the place. If you get no issues it could be a network issue. Some games wait for packet updates to update frames (for lerps I guess).. pain in the ass, but when I was a CoD ho I used to have frame issues due to playing on wireless, went wired and that shit cleared right up...
Also, you say the PC is new, does that include the TB HDD?
Dota is not GPU bound, it's CPU. OC'ing from 3.x ghz to 4.0ghz gives you like 15-30 fps. Note you need a good aftermarket cooler. Verify your CPU speed using CPU-Z or Core Temp to verify you are running at full speed and not on Intel Speedstep with 1000-2400mhz on core.
^ Did the lobby thing by spamming Invoker meteors, lowest I got was 39.
And yes, the PC doesn't run at 100% in other games either, for example I have 140-150 fps in CS:GO when I should have 250-270 with this rig.
"You need to start running some tests to find out where the throttle is, I highly suspect that the CPU isn't the issue here.
Also from my own personal experience I usually avoid buying cheaper OC'd products as they can prove troublesome in the long run. e.g. I would only buy an OC'd higher range card as they come with slightly more efficient cooling."
Sure thing. Why you talk about things you have no idea? We already mentioned that a while ago, and you keep on going with stupid stuff again and again.
Watch this picture for like 30 mins. Maybe you'll figure out it's not cooling problem then.
Vapor-X is like best cooling you can get for AMD GPU, and Sapphire is like almost closest vendor to AMD.
Can you stop doing this, please? It's killing me to see how much people can be wrong.
It's like 3.9k MMR trying to theory craft about 6k MMR.
That's stupid.
On the other hand, Kumbo and I will fix this problem at the end of the day.
Still, it could be software or hardware related problem, however, what I've done so far:
-Tested it with AVX LinX to see if there's CPU trottle, checked temps while did it.
All fine, all set up.
- Tried him out a few older/newer drivers and cleaned them with Driver Sweaper
- Checked CPU ussage while he's playing Dota 2, it goes as it should.
So before you start typing some STUPID AND RETARDED STUFF, START USING SOME BRAIN CELLS OR GTFO!
Don't talk about things We/I already tried, and DONT, PLEASE, DONT talk about things you have NO IDEA HOW they work.
I wonder what would happen if you turn off all intel speedstep and other technologies that control your cpu speed through bios. Just try it, it might be some weird problem with that. Also check your power settings in windows with cpu-z running at the same time and make sure cpu (and everything else) is always on full speed. That would eliminate cpu being the cause for it.
Hey man, ty for answering, it defo seems system related then. (h/ware or s/ware as shred says).
Just incase you missed it, Is the 1TB HDD new or old? And if it's old, is the OS installation new or old?
Also, do you have any other Power Supply units to test with? yours is on the biting edge of requirements for the 270... so any dip in manufacturing quality (as can be expected) may cause issues. (rec. minimum 28A continuous current on the 12V rail, yours is 29.xA, so *shouldn't* be the issue, but due to how close it is, it's worth checking.)
sorry but i dont have anything to contribute to a solution. just a question: what do u need these high framerates for?
^^ I don't have other power supply but the power supply I have now it was the best buy at the time, it's 80+ gold certified and the guys from the site I bought the PC assured me it's more than enough, my PC in load shouldn't go more than 270 wats. And yes, the HDD is new, everything was bought from scratch.
^ I need the high framerates for a smooth game maybe? I don't ask for 120+ fps, I just want stable 70-75 fps during teamfights, it's really retarded for a 800$ PC to have 33-34 fps during teamfights.
13oundary, it's enough. If you're running all on stocks, if psu is new and in good conditiions, 28A on 12v single rail will be more then enough for 270X(140w) and I5(about 80w).
Wattage isn't the most important factor in PSUs for gaming GPUs man, s'why I was talking about Amps. Also, the guys selling you shit are the least trustworthy people in most cases.
with the CPU/RAM/GPU and the fact that your HDD is new, you should be at /least/ getting 70fps steady on Dota... I get about that on a laptop (3rd gen i7 nd 660M).
Since it's a new OS install and shit, try the DXSETUP.exe in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\dota 2 beta\_CommonRedist\DirectX\Jun2010
then make sure you got .NET 4.5.2 here (doesn't auto download with Windows Update for some reason) http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=42642&134b2bb0-86c1-fe9f-d523-281faef41695=1
Then go to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\dota 2 beta\dota\cfg\
right click and edit config.cfg and look for engine_no_focus_sleep `20` nd set it to 0 instead.
after all that shit... I'm outa gass... gotta actually go back to work too (doing this exact same shit lol )
EDIT: @ Shred, 28A is MINIMUM requrements... if the PSU he has has a negative manufacturing variance it could knock it bellow minimum requirements. also hence the *shouldn't* but is something to test.
I know what I'm talking about. That PSU is enough for that rig, bro.
You know, somehow I know I'm right because THIS is what i do for living, this is how I earn fucking money.
So, when I say something I'm right, because I already tried it and I know what I'm talking about.
Won't waste anymore time to explain myself, but I will do it for the last time:
That PSU got 37amps on 12V, it means it will deliver about 450W in peak, and his rig won't go above 300w 90%of the time.
Interal components are like better version of Seasonic/Sirtec/Delta/CWT, that PSU is 100% reliable and it will deliver enough power for his PC.
On the other hand, we fixed the problem. It was software related.
Kumbo is enjoying his new PC atm, give him some time.
Tread closed. :)
We just reinstalled Steam and Dota. Problem fixed.
It might comeback again, in that case we'll install fresh version of Windows.
I had that feeling it was the fuckin software problem, gj boys. And yeah - Shred knows what he's talking about, i completely agree with him cause i was doing the same thing for a living for a while and i'm in the fuckin computer business from as long i can remember (almost 15 years)
lol hush. You'd be surprised, though I woulda done the redist and verify first myself... Tier 1/2 support will tell you to re-install the software before passing it up the ladder every time though... so it technically is pro-like ;P
@shred, you were too busy raging at a comment that I said *shouldn't* be the issue that you didn't read shit all else I had to say... I really, really feel sorry for anyone who isn't as computer literate that has to deal with you for their support...
I have a similar step and I run fine (+- 90fps). One question no one else asked, are you running windows 7 or 8, 32 bit or 64? Sometimes drivers dont play nice on certain platforms...It is more that likely a bloating issue. Make sure you dont have intensive programs or services running
99% of the time it's software or driver related. I have the same card as you, not a vapor x though, just regular cooling but a sapphire r9 270, no issues. If it's a hardware problem usually the card crashes all the time, not just fps drops on one game.
Also adjust "Game Screen Render Quality". Most of us are playing anywhere from 50-90%. I myself dont' see any difference so I play mine at 68-90%.
I think Shred fixed it, I will install CS:GO now to be 100% sure. Also the details I run are: everything high, no anti-aliasing, no ambient creatures and no ambient occlusion with v-sync off. Render is 100% and shadow quality on medium. Haven't seen lower fps than 75 so far, let's see if its actually fixed or not. If I get more fps in CS:GO as well then it's fixed.
Special thanks to Shred and 1234 who wasted time with me trying to help me out and to all the people who actually tried to help me by posting here, greatly appreciated.
i got amd r9 290 shit and runs 120fps + on 1080p monitor max settings 24/7
its not drivers.. maybe cpu temps are rising or thermal paste failed... im at 4ghz with my quad with full load 60C on summer
and 27C iddle... i dont know what u do with ur pc but go check everything... also if u havent formated ur pc it may be not a hardware problem tho..
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Ok so I literally have no idea what to do anymore, please someone help me or I'll go nuts.
I have the following PC:
- i5 4460 @ 3.2 GHz
- GIGABYTE GA-H81M-S2H Motherboard
- Crucial 4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL11 Single Ranked x2 (8 GB)
- WD Blue 1TB SATA-III 7200 RPM 64MB
- Sapphire Radeon R9 270 Vapor-X OC WITH BOOST 2GB DDR5 256-bit
- Super Flower Golden Green HX SF-450P14XE(HX) 450W
- BenQ GW2265M 21.5 inch 6ms GTG black.
Is it normal to get fps drops to 48, sometimes even 46 with everything high and full HD resolution?
Is this build not capable of fucking supporting 70 stable fps?
What is wrong? I really need help :(