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General DiscussionWhy isn't OD a thing?

Why isn't OD a thing? in General Discussion
Dunning-Kruger-Doto

    He isn't a tier 1 pick for a long time now, but since leshrac/qop/storm are common picks now, I think OD could make it into the meta as a situational counter:

    Pros:

    - Destroys every Intmidlaner in the laning stage
    - Huge DPS against non BKB carriers (aoe and singletarget)
    - Burns mana with ult
    - Forces enemys into BKBs (for example storm)
    - High Starting stats and huge statgain
    - Early Mek
    - Can avoid ganks (if not more than 2 involved)

    Cons:

    - Bad pushingability
    - Bad ganker
    - Relies on farm
    - No real escape

    Totentanz to The King: M ...

      He doesn't destroy Leshrac or Lina in lane though.

      jus chillen

        he is really easy to gank if you attempt right after he used astral plus he needs a team to tank/brawl for him, or he gets focused/rekt
        he wins mid but thats all this hero does

        EmptyJar

          He used to, but his range got nerfed, those 2 were buffed, just can't deal effectively with flavours of the patch

          Pale Mannie

            I like OD, but i cant even farm and mostly my team feeds when i pick OD :(

            Sadlife

            Dire Wolf

              cus his range is so bad I'm not sure he can beat other int heroes mid anymore. He's like the int version of viper only overnerfed and not tanky.

              Vaikiss`742.

                lol half of the mid heroes shit all over od pick

                hes slow and easy to gank doesn't contribute much to teamfights until hes heaviliy farmed and he cant farm fast

                KGBlue Lives Matter

                  He feels like a shittier version of SF, Both are farm reliant right click heroes with aoe ultis but SF has better range, can actually gank, and recovers way easier from a bad start due to razes, and his ulti isnt reliant on being farmed and doesnt have a retarded CD.

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                    Honestly what a garbage hero...

                    Quick maffs

                      Mediocre ( almost bad ) mid hero

                      He gets shitted on by lesh or lina

                      He needs a buff in astral range again

                      jus chillen

                        idk mb give hime attack range or some shit and speed and astral range :DDD

                        Totentanz to The King: M ...

                          Speed is already fine at 315, base stats, stat gain, base armor are all fine too. What he needs is to not be entirely useless against BKB and he may be a totally fine safelane hero actually.

                          Andy

                            Was expecting smaug to post on this one .. Disappointed.

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                              SPHERE AND BOX

                              Spanac

                                well if he would pierce bkb then he would be broken period. he would be like ench but much much better imo. so no! let him stay like he is now..he is a pain in the a.. anyway in mid

                                jus chillen

                                  where is smaug when you need his expertise

                                  ED WUNCLER

                                    od boring cause no arcana

                                    npc
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                                      Pom Pom 🍕

                                        He's better if you can set up skills for other heroes like mirana, lina, techies, bloodseeker or even kunkka (before he has more range on X). He basically has a free eul (except deals no damage so blinks aren't disabled, and can't be purged). Maybe if mirana makes a comeback he will too?

                                        It feels he needs a slow or something though so he can make up for his slow farming speed with ganking. Imprisonment is great defensively and to set up, but OD by himself is just a right-clicker with an instant nuke on long cooldown. His medium attack range doesn't help with the lack of a slow or stun either. Even a silence so he won't get slowed or stunned himself while right-clicking the same target would be nice. But currently he seems very team dependent after laning stage.

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