Is this a bragging thread or something, "see I didn't deserve to be in that shit tier!!!" or something? I think everyone already realizes that you can climb in normal matchmaking from your last account and then start calibration matches at a higher tier than your previous hence everyone "smurfing".
I would love to see more progress as you play 1k above your original rating though, will you keep updating this thread?
I must say this calibration looks quite odd.
Your first 3 games, all loses and none with impressive stats lead the calibration to increase your MMR by 4 times the typical amount for winning the game. Perhaps the 4th loss did cause your MMR to drop.
Your 5th game, a win with strong stats does not appear to increase MMR.
the listed stats are not the only ones to affect your mmr during calibration, it's a bit more multi-dimensional
As far as I know Valve has declined to specify precisely what stats are considered in calibration. But can you identify anything from this game that would make you think it deserves a 100 MMR gain from a lost game?
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1792467832
KDA is lower than the global average, low for the game, average for the losing team. The xp and gpm are below average. The tower dmg is way below average. Hero dmg is low. Denies are low... maybe he got far more than engima's average of 3 wards/ game? But we can't see that stat. There is really no reason why this game should gain MMR.
^none of listed stats have a consistent positive correlation with how good you performed, neither with how skilled as a player you are. idk what kind of statistics valve currently uses to estimate ur performance, but from what ive seen recently, it works pretty much fine.
It could be that they don't do anything with the stats at all unless they show you are vastly over or under performing. But even so how do you gain 100 MMR for a loss?
Whatever the case, the real test is whether he can hold that MMR over time or will he lose a lot of ranked games in next 100 games or so.
I think the real key to his high calibration MMR are these two games. The very first games he played in Normal.
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1621134073
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1621490414
With Tinker KDA of 55-2-20 for these games. That's the sort of performance I would expect an anti-smurf to identify and jump up in MMR.
And the very next game, he skips straight into Very High. Probably he has moved very little in MMR since that point.
in calibration, both in nmm and rmm, you gain/lose pts basing on how well you performed (relative to your role and your teammates), and it doesnt rly matter whether u won or lost. however, as i alrdy said, i got 0 clue how is your performanced currently measured and what stats are used.
yea, it would be interesting to see this guy's further success. to be really honest, i dont believe he'll be able to hold his mmr at this level.
calibration is broken as fuck, i went 10-0 with the best stats every game and got 4480.
Isnt the 100 point rise in MMR after the loss due to the average of his team mates, and not a rise in his own MMR, considering he was still calibrating? Idk.
ur first ranked game will be equal in mmr to your unranked. This means your numbers are extremely false.
There's no way your unranked mmr is 4300mmr when you lose and gain mmr. I did this 3'4 weeeks ago or something.
im repeating myself so much recently
in calibration, both in nmm and rmm, you gain/lose pts basing on how well you performed (relative to your role and your teammates), and it doesnt rly matter whether u won or lost. however, as i alrdy said, i got 0 clue how is your performanced currently measured and what stats are used.
for example, if u smurf and ur first game will be in high skill bracket for some reason, and ur whole team will feed non stop on purpose, while u go 11-1-3 800 gpm as antimage, and u still lose game - then ur next game will be in vhs.
its easy to see how it works by looking through the first matches of an ccount which is in between vhs and hs - the mmr change doesnt correlate wi wins/losses.
actually, the fact that wins and losses have low impact during ur calibration is kind of a common knowledge, as far as i thought. at least, all the boosters i saw streaming on twitch know it.
I won 7/10 calibration games and got calibrated @ 1200.
But I sucked really bad either way.
It's an So called Inverse problem youre trying to solve with 1 atempt it basically shows nothing.
its like saying "hey i played the lotery 1 time and won only 15 bucks"
It does not show any meaningfull information in regards to how the system works.
^Actually i'm planning to do a new account and see if what factors really are involved. Even I abandoned 3 games because of PC problems, yeah. (So far, 2-2)
Yow Original Poster nobody wants to suck your nutsack you peeenoise shitstain
Hmm, seems like you played some high skill ranked games recently.
and before that u had few VHS games, so I guess u lied about calibration in the first place. It seems like you calibrated around 3700-3800.
or you are not talking aboit this acc?
^ScareCrow thank you!
@Allu
Those Normal Skills and High Skills games, I'm with a party. :) when I solo, I get Very High.
by the way
it doesn't have to mean that when AVERAGE mmr goes up after loss, your own mmr goes up too
it might not be the case but there's difference between average mmr of your team and your own hidden mmr
^ yeah, my friends proved that your mmr in your last 5 games in calibration will not be moving anymore.
Question , how do you get these specifics? Like do you use console or a special website?
On an unrelated note.. You are super cute =)
Please dont listen to this nonsense it is missleading and wrong. If you do care for some reason and want to know search and you will find.
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I can give you my stats so that you guys can have an idea on how Dota 2 MMR System works. My main was 3437 Solo and 3290 Party.
I calibrated at 4538 (3 wins - 7 loss)
The stats below were my stats before I started calibrating.
- 5.81 KDA
- 53.75% Winrate
- 467 GPM
- 518 XPM
- 39.85 LH/10 Mins
- 2.23 DH/10 Mins
My TBD games
- 1st game (4300+ MMR, Loss) (Naga Siren 10/7/18 K/D/A)
- 2nd game (4400+ MMR, Loss) (Enigma 2/7/16 K/D/A)
- 3rd game (4500+ MMR, Loss) (Wind Ranger 8/3/5 K/D/A)
- 4th game (4600+ MMR, Loss) (Storm Spirit 6/8/13 K/D/A)
- 5th game (4500+ MMR, Win) (Wind Ranger 22/3/4 K/D/A)
- 6th game (4500+ MMR, Loss) (Anti Mage 3/6/5 K/D/A)
- 7th game (4500+ MMR, Loss) (Nature's Prophet 10/13/11 K/D/A)
- 8th game (4500+ MMR, Loss) (Phantom Lancer 6/13/6 K/D/A)
- 9th game (4500+ MMR, Win) (Wind Ranger 8/5/12 K/D/A)
- 10th game (4500+ MMR, Win) (Earth Shaker 3/7/20 K/D/A)
So, another proof that winrate at calibration doesn't really affect your MMR.