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General DiscussionParty VS Solo MMR

Party VS Solo MMR in General Discussion
Glaglius

    Is it me or are the people I get while qued in a party ALOT worse than while solo? Some of these games are not possible to win.

    Zen

      that's because people partying tend to care less about the outcome of the game generally

      -Berlinstation-

        same here. used to had 4.5. and dropped to 4.2

        TripleSteal-

          you cant drop due to parties tho, cz whenever there is a party on your side, enemy team has a duostack as well.

          sayaka

            they bring in more randomness which could increase or decrease your mmr

            Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

              I've hated parties in the past in solo que mmr. Cuz usually their inflated MMR. Usually the higher mmr plays the support and the dumber one plays carry. They should disable this altogether, I'd rather wait 5+ minutes for a game than being in mix que 2-3 minutes.

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                TripleSteal
                That's not true.Party q measured with party MMR not solo MMR.Imagine one brings a 2k into 3k avg game.
                The problem is the MMR gap allowed to mix party and solo q is too much. (right now it must be ~1.5k IICC).
                They should downsize it.

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                TripleSteal-

                  but thats true for both your team and the enemy team, isnt it? and on average the stacks from both teams are equal.

                  Mandalorian

                    Stacks in my team are usually fuckin garbage, but that's me. On average it should be equal.

                    Rocket

                      Everyone thinks mixing parties and solo queue together is rubbish but there isn't really an alternative - there are so many more double stacks vs triple stacks - the queue time would be ridiculous.

                      jus chillen

                        hey triple retard.

                        why does enemy have party of 2 4600 players , and my team has 4800 venge + 3900(what the fuck) abbadon.
                        and u know venge plays like a retard and solo loses the game ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ?

                        jus chillen

                          he even baited slark into building mkb while i was morph ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

                          Синячий патруль

                            Noone cares about the party pts

                            Dire Wolf

                              you just notice when they are terrible, it's like having peruvians on your team, really easy to blame when they lose you the game. But sometimes the party guys are actually good and pick stuff that works together.

                              http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2181134815

                              pudge and magnus were in a party, went offlane and won that lane hard, got me and ember space. Opposing team sven was highest mmr, don't remember his partner, maybe have actually been alch. So they didn't pick shit that worked together, he was completely underfarmed. It really depends on mindset, a lot of times you get cocky assholes who think cus they are 300 pts higher than everyone they're going to roll with meepo or some crazy shit. The best wins are usually when they pick an op offlane combo or roaming supports together.

                              Mandalorian

                                I care about party points. Keepo

                                jus chillen

                                  i donate my party mmr to 3700 average scrubs

                                  Dire Wolf

                                    I don't know if I care what my party mmr is, but I try to win games, no matter what the queue, normal ranked party solo. Kinda funny though my party is only like 100 pts higher than my solo so I feel both are accurate.