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General DiscussionEcho Sabre on AM?

Echo Sabre on AM? in General Discussion
UnchainedPredator

    Is it viable or is it just a waste of space? I've been trying it lately and it seems ok. The double strike allows me to clear camps faster and the slow helps a lot when chasing (slow + manta + double strike). With the changes to abyssal, it seems ok to skip vlads as well, instead going abyssal for tankiness. Thoughts?
    P.S keep in mind I'm not exactly the best AM player around and I may be wrong lol.

    4head

      AM lacks space for a lot of items .... its better item to go on sven and slark imo

      Metallicize

        useless item on am, it can be viable on wk on svne mb idk about slark, could use better items

        Metallicize

          tiny mb, idk tho its 1 slot still

          Nitron

            its bad on slark imo. its wasted on agility heroes in general i think, because your attack speed will be higher anyways. a hyperstone alone gives you more dps than a echo sabre on almost every hero. its very good on tiny though.

            Metallicize

              its good on a hero that can blink + stun and do a good amount of damage from attacks, but it will be a wasted slot later

              Androgynous

                hyperstone gives 0 stats and doesn't slow either. i don't think it's a must-have on slark but it seems decent on him.

                Arty

                  ushally as am i go 7 slotted after eating moon stone and he already ahs insane attack speed after you buy manta and battlefury and moon shard i wouldnt just not worth the space

                  Millicent of Scarlet Aeonia

                    I think Echo sabre it's not oriented on very late carry, because most of them needs a lot of farm to get big, antimage usually waste 15 min farming battlefury to keep farming, so echo sabre would be a waste of time, because Antimage avoid fights most of the time.
                    Echo sabre it's good to slark, Pa(if you dont build Battlefury), maybe Juggernaut, Sladar, wk those heroes can fight earlier than Antimage.

                    YB^^

                      So what is the new slark item progression?

                      Androgynous

                        1 extra attack every 5s makes more of a difference early/mid game when your attack speed is slower, it's not a good late game item when you could afford an attack speed item instead like cuirass or butterfly because you'll have more gold late game.

                        in the late game u can probably get at least 15, maybe 20 attacks in 5s, so having 1 more attack is not a big deal. whereas in the early game in 5s you can probably only attack 5 times, going from 5 attacks to 6 is a bigger relative dps increase.

                        Metallicize

                          exactly