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General DiscussionIs pa the new meta hero

Is pa the new meta hero in General Discussion
Final Boss

    Pa got a buff this patch which allows her to phantom strike onto spell immune heroes and since most of the heroes that beat her late game are natural bkb carries she can easily take most of them now. Thoughts?

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      5THLEGION

        Still not as good as she used to be.
        Definetly not a 1v9 hard shitstain booster hero which she had been designed for

        Johnny Rico

          no but they still need to nerf tinker lul

          sin blyadi

            no

            dunce

              still too much stuff that shit on her
              but she is a lot harder to kite now

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              Your Wife's Boyfriend

                shes okay in the right game but there are much more op heroes i think

                Fee Too Pee

                  nukes > dead PA

                  Swap Commends

                    ^ This
                    Also Pa only works when there is team fight creator hero in team like magnus,axe,enigma ...

                    Pale Mannie

                      team fight creator

                      youre looking for the word Initiator

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                      dunce

                        nah she can chase so easily

                        NEKOCAN

                          The buff for phantom strike is necessary i think
                          See sven with bkb and echo or lifestealer pa cant do shit but now atleast pa can jump onto them and hoping for crit xD

                          Filthy

                            Ya bit life stealer was weak vs pa anyways cuz she has low hp and evasion .

                            SirSwirll

                              Still useless

                              mirocj

                                Nope, too easy to get rekt as pa
                                http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2436429210

                                SirSwirll

                                  Use shackle, easy pa kills ^

                                  I3ambi

                                    This begs the question. Is enigma the new go to hero? Pure damage? That has to make a dent

                                    Johnny Rico

                                      enigma was always a go to hero, he has one od the best ults of the game, that dish a ton of dmg and immobilize people.
                                      I think osfrog is trying to get more pure dmg into the game, maybe ravage will be next, pure dmg, but stun doenst pierce bkb.

                                      Snu

                                        Every PA i've played with this patch use the Vlad's into Deso. I've seen it used great ONCE, but only once. Every other PA I've had, were shit PA's. They use that build then jump in the jungle like they are gunna farm something quickly instead of going out and taking objectives and killing heroes.

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                                        eclessia

                                          "Every PA i've played with this patch use the Vlad's into Deso. I've seen it used great ONCE, but only once. Every other PA I've had, were shit PA's. They use that build then jump in the jungle like they are gunna farm something quickly instead of going out and taking objectives and killing heroes."
                                          No shit this hero has been overrated and picked by 3 digit MMR shitstains because they think they can wreck people by throwing toothpicks and blinking on to other retards without having farm skill or gamesense (but still ends up doing so because OMG EVASION IS SO OP)

                                          Snu

                                            I haven't played with 3 digit MMR players for a while now, thanks tho...
                                            But yes, in the 2k-3.8k bracket, there are still alot of people (with over 1000 games) who do this kinda shit.

                                            SirSwirll

                                              PA's 50% winrate is from others heros who carry him and allow the hero to have space.

                                              Snu

                                                Well, there is also the occasional game (maybe 4-10% of that 50% that wins because of pure luck crits/evasion in fights.
                                                Played a game not to long ago where we lost all of our T1's by 15 minutes, and I went for a BKB over BF first. Ended up with 4 or 5 consecutive crits while immune and we turned around and won the game in 30 some minutes. <- that game is also when the comeback mechanics were at their worst, so it doesn't even say much.
                                                Its nice to see those crits, but I can see why the hero is so hated. Braindead x 1000.

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                                                eclessia

                                                  From about 70% of my pub and solo ranked games where people pick PA 24/7,I can still count the amount of good PAs by my fingers (GOOD not GREAT,and by good is that they can actually farm) and only one or two of them can actually play the hero.
                                                  Also I only met a good riki player once, and he was on the opposite team.

                                                  5THLEGION

                                                    Im the greatest riki /clinkz/ursa/pa/sb player on low bracket.
                                                    But in this patch pa still melts really easy It used to be really hard to kill a 3,4slot pa.
                                                    I remember carrying 40iq negros in my team with 1v9 pa

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                                                    sisyphus

                                                      aquila vanguard deso build is some good stuff, just run at people and kill them before they can get any farm

                                                      bearcat0611

                                                        Pa is a hero that doesnt play well from behind, but if she gets her farm can dominate games. The problem for Pa is when the enemy has burst or lockdown. Also blademail is hell to play against as pa especially after 6.87.

                                                        Whoregasm

                                                          don't overreact too much to patch changes because every hero changes. the meta is new but it isn't something to crown until a week in. It isn't like the answer to PA has always been a bkb...

                                                          Klonu

                                                            @KEEPFEEDINGITSALREADYOVER
                                                            50% winrate with riki and u call urself best? please. Watch and learn.

                                                            TripleSteal-

                                                              i think u cant make something out of garbage by just cleaning it. it will still be garbage.

                                                              5THLEGION

                                                                @Klonu Said the shitlord that buys echo saber on riki

                                                                ThinkGod007

                                                                  PA never out of limelight. Just adjust your item build for every patch. Nerf her or buff her never a big deal on a high dps 1v9 hero . just get good farm .

                                                                  Entertainment 7wenty

                                                                    @KEEPFEEDINGITSALREADYOVER if you haven't added the echo sabre to your riki build then you're doing it wrong.

                                                                    Cнейкмонгер

                                                                      @CDC.Porkchop sandwiches You don't -need- echo saber on riki in normalskill... can just opt for max ulti damage + armor reduction and kill most.

                                                                      Klonu

                                                                        Holy crap, never knew people here are so low not taking echo sabre on riki serious. Well, no wonder most of u got max 55% winrate with riki. shame!

                                                                        kr

                                                                          http://puu.sh/ptMQk/9a91ed912a.jpg

                                                                          blues w33, this hero is super strong lol. i just ran around and killed everyone with my bounty hunter.

                                                                          u cant actually do anything to this hero mid. new daggers retarded, esp if u get early blight. i one shotted the riki with a dagger at the end of the game lol.

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                                                                          Snake Monger

                                                                            Not saying it's not serious, but echo sabre does add quite low damage in the long run compared to other options.
                                                                            So it's not really necessary in order to win as Riki.

                                                                            5THLEGION

                                                                              S&yasha >>>echo sabre [on riki]

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                                                                              TripleSteal-

                                                                                echo sabre costs too much for it to be purchased on roaming riki, and doesnt give you enough stuff to make it a legit item for core riki. there are better options.

                                                                                dunce


                                                                                  can anyone see this picture?

                                                                                  one syllable anglo-saxon

                                                                                    No because you linked it wrong.