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General Discussionhow to not suck balls with invoker early game

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Field Marshal Asim Muneer

    i am so bad at invoker early game .... hes one of my fvt heroes in dota but cant win with that shit.. later i am good with decision making and combos and all that stuff... i really suck early game tho.. any tips would be helpful..i get aghs close to 20 min while good player can get in 16-17 even in relatively worse lane

    Rain

      1. Go to lane with null and faerie fire
      2. Make bassilus/RoA and brown boots
      3. Make midas

      In the laning stage, invoker is very vulnerable to ganks, but also deadly in the sense that cold snap + forge spirit + sun-strike gets you counter kills. So, whenever they come to gank you, be ready for opportunities to kill

      Nile

        Auto attack the wave as much possible, since you don't have waveclear. If you keep the wave under enemy tower, you won't miss any creeps even if you get ganked. In another sense, a 2 man rotation into 0 objective from your enemy.

        SebastianTheGymViking

          Simba I just reported you.

          To answer the OP

          Learn how to lasthit in a lobby. Use alacrity. Forget about sunstriking it makes you less focused.
          you can use forges carfully and Scout for ganks with the.

          Mlada i Luda

            suck dicks maybe ?!!!!!!!! you see why i have no respect for blue stars and i consider them same as others in here as long as they dont prove themself. actually simba is 100% right in his advice @sir .

            ywn

              actually ur all wrong

              🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                actually no one is wrong

                зачем я начал поиск

                  Right-click the enemy spawn and let go of your keyboard.

                  A

                    teach us ywn senpai !

                    Mlada i Luda

                      @ywn what im i wrong about? sucking dicks? i dont think so cause you cant suck dicks and boths at the same time , who knows maybe you know it better lul XD cause about dota related part im prety sure that no one is wrong for sure.

                      Mlada i Luda

                        and' balls' boths was the was the correct sentences, shit keep mising words my bad

                        ywn

                          funny how all the people who gave tips dont even play invoker except the normal skill with 44% winrate

                          Mlada i Luda

                            so those retarded arguments will never end here right? trying to judge the person you talking with only from what see his acc stats ? lol ..typical of ignorance people they watch only the "top of iceberg" , and they think they know soemthing about it ncncnc, stop messing with the person you dont know who he is , maybe same person here have many acc with different mmr-se or some shit. try to mess up with the material you read, cause after all you never now who is sitting behind the pc. maybe its a tea eye winner who knows? lul

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                              Its my fav hero too . Here my little advise , just keep last hitting the creep ( deny some creep if u can ) and always alert with map missing ... If top/btm lane especially enemy's supp hero is missing . Just keep ur distance with mid hero and play safe under ur tower while last hitting the creep . Ask ur supp to ward if it necessary . But trust me , ward is very important for every moment in the game , so u can see where is ur enemy going to gank , farm , SoD or whatever . So map alert and ward would be very effective to keep you safe . 😊

                              SebastianTheGymViking

                                I have 3000 + games in dota 2 with Invoker.
                                That said.
                                Everyone knows that Pushing the lane into tower is a big no no, Regardless of hero/lane
                                and you basically die More ez if you are under tower. And you cannot last hit under tower.

                                the reason i reported him is because he is 4k meaning he knows this basic dota shit.
                                And is intentionally giving you 3x wrong tips to be scam/troll.
                                or he is actually insanely noob like i just said. then im sry.

                                Also please mafioso, the fact that you dont care about us Bluestars is irelevant.
                                Especially to us blue stars.
                                Youre basically the idiot that says that "All people who read are stupid".
                                And youre proud of the fact that you cannot read.
                                while trying to convince people who actually do read
                                that you dont care about them.
                                while you obviuosly do care.

                                Try doing more reading in your life, and listen more while talking less. You might change into something better. Who knows.

                                Mlada i Luda

                                  read my last comment i preanswered you already @sir, than make sure you killyourself XD

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                                    @mafioso . No wonder you got less than 40% rate for invoker in normal match bracket 😜

                                    SebastianTheGymViking

                                      Think before you talk. Try to fix yourself before you "fix" the world. It just makes you loook navie.
                                      start by cleaning your room.

                                      dead

                                        ^i like this guy

                                        Mlada i Luda

                                          ahahhahaaaahhahahahahhahahahahahaahhahah, so i have to repeat myself again to explain that invoker thing you keep talking about ,only to make you realise how retarded your comments are ? nah no way its not worth lol. jsut keep it up i will enjoy the show.

                                          ywn

                                            total retards

                                            ywn

                                              List of total dogshit advice:

                                              1. Go to lane with null and faerie fire
                                              2. Make bassilus/RoA and brown boots
                                              3. Make midas

                                              Auto attack the wave as much possible, since you don't have waveclear. If you keep the wave under enemy tower, you won't miss any creeps even if you get ganked. In another sense, a 2 man rotation into 0 objective from your enemy.

                                              Forget about sunstriking it makes you less focused.

                                              edit: anything mafioso says

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                                              Jacked

                                                i dont understand the auto attack wave clear part actually.

                                                for me invoker is all about the sunstrike early on otherwise u are cant contribute much while trying to farm up

                                                Shou

                                                  What I want to know is what to keep invoked and when

                                                  Mlada i Luda

                                                    the autoattack wave part its not specify only for invoker but that is the meta right now, to push the wave to your enemy try to create double wave and than ez lane ( not going morein details), it is actually specifik somewhow for invo to autoattack, cause he doenst have spells that he can spam to push waves like mostly mid heroes have.

                                                    ywn

                                                      What I want to know is what to keep invoked and when

                                                      alacrity if u skill wex in lane/forge spirit if u only go q/e in lane both for lasthitting and harassing
                                                      cold snap if u need it to kill or disrupt ganks(always vs sb)

                                                      sunstrike if u dont need cold snap cause it saves u 60 mana to not have to invoke it every time

                                                      ywn

                                                        anything mafioso says

                                                        주 롄양

                                                          either snap+forge or snap+ss? grimorium said that what makes invoker really strong is coldsnap, old player anyway

                                                          ywn

                                                            if the lane is hard u need either alac if u skilled wex or forge spirit if no wex to help u cs

                                                            Tento komentář byl upraven
                                                            Jacked

                                                              mafioso maybe u should refrain from giving dota 2 advice or any advice in general. lol
                                                              i've never haerd that its meta to just push non stop lol

                                                              maybe if your laning against a ta both would want to keep pushing

                                                              Shou

                                                                Alacrity at lvl 2 feels almost useless
                                                                The other thing with my invoker is that I farm poorly and end up under leveled
                                                                So in a lane against wr for example, I shud keep sunstrike and alacrity invoked? Cuz u can't kill her with coldsnap cuz windrun? Ill remember to use forges more as well, I forget abt it in the early game

                                                                ywn

                                                                  its because mafioso watched this video

                                                                  and he thinks hes smart or something, its matchup specific however and feelsgoodman if ur playing invo in a hard matchup and they push ur lane like a total mafiosotard

                                                                  Shou

                                                                    In a hard lane isn't it better to get that quas point for the Regen?

                                                                    ywn

                                                                      im going to play basketball bye ill actually answer questions for once later cause i cant bear to read this shit

                                                                      Mlada i Luda

                                                                        xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa, i will have to get use with this shit i have no other choice, i mean with people inhere trying to get in my mind, and trying to figure out my thinking procces, trust me or not im not a miracle funn gei. if you could read in my mind at least a min o things, you would realised i could never be a miracle funn, he is known mostly cause of his mmr, and mmr is not my thing .

                                                                        Jacked

                                                                          and mmr is not my thing .

                                                                          this explains a lot

                                                                          changes

                                                                            just dont leave midlane keep creep equilibrium near your tower.
                                                                            predict enemies movements when you know they are missing and might gank you go jungle. nothing you can do against most ganks.
                                                                            if u get caught pray that everything will be okay.
                                                                            and you are below 4k so you must be missing last hits is the reason you are getting super slow aghs

                                                                            Mlada i Luda

                                                                              i still think that the correct answer is 'to suck dicks' if you dont like balls.

                                                                              Lokieleven

                                                                                get a nice little divine rapier

                                                                                SebastianTheGymViking

                                                                                  Perhaps i should have been more clear dont forget about sunstrike.
                                                                                  just dont let it Take over your game so you think about That and nothing else.
                                                                                  i stand corrected.

                                                                                  Maximus

                                                                                    It helps to get alot of stun on your team for ez ss kills. Ask a friend to play nyx or axe on the offlane. Look at replays of sumiya etc. Focus on how they get early game solo kills, a suprise meteor cs on level7/8 can kill of a squishy hero like lina or sf. Another underused spell is icewall. Also practice last hitting and farming patterns and use alacrity or forge spirits. Keep in mind that u can only use 3 spells in early game because of mana issues so chose wisely. Also git gud