It means either u improved or cheat the system to gain mmr higher than what u play
@Dominator321- I don't know how to cheat the system tho.
I wanna try to use a hero that I play best rather than picking multiple hero in rank, maybe it could give me 10 wins to make 50% again.
@Kavinzaza- No luck I guess.
@Diox I bet I could make multiple rampages in your bracket with just using my feet.
If u want to raise your mmr and get above 50% winrate, stop playing supports, play cores/pushers that have solo kill potential and that can push towers very well. Even if you have hard carry in your team already, don't mind about him, you will have to carry your team cause nobody knows how to farm or just be useful in fights. So heroes that are great at doing that are Lycan, NP, AM, Juggernaut... Enigma is good as well but its kinda boring hero.
^You know, people with 300 MMR shouldn't really be giving advice on how to raise MMR.
ROFL. But u have sub 50 winrate in normal skill bruh. No need to be so sensitive. It's true your winrate just means u overcalibrated and became worse.
@ I play for fun-
Sure, in <1k players literally don't know know how to farm but you have a point.
@Diox- I want to get to your bracket and grind up to get to atleast 80% winrate and that would be nice lmao. I'm having my two months break in Dota then start playing again with starting several heroes and supports but you thought I bought? Lmao
this is rarely talked about, but you can greatly inflate your winrate by having a huge discrepancy in timing of renked and non ranked matches
what I did to get 55% winrate was play exclusively unranked from 1k to almost 4k, then I started playing RANKED from 1k to 4k, then I started playing unranked again when I realized I just don't "feel it" when grinding MMR anymore
but you can inflate your winrate too, not just MMR, another obvious way is stacking with people who will carry you most games
If u want to raise your mmr and get above 50% winrate, stop playing supports, play cores/pushers that have solo kill potential and that can push towers very well. Even if you have hard carry in your team already
you don't know SHIT
^it's kinda true at really low MMR, grinding MMR by spamming supports is really impractical because supports are there to enable cores, and if your cores are shit, in a lot of cases you just won't accomplish anything, no matter what, but if you ARE the core, and are generally better than your opponents, you have a huge advantage
this changes in 3k where spamming high impact supports starts to leave a mark
The fact that you're trying to give an actual advice to someone who can't comprehend obvious shits shows how fucking dumb you are
You can get higher MMR by playing support even in the trenches, don't talk like it's much harder to win than playing core
you can win and get higher MMR by doing literally anything in the trenches, that does not mean everything is equally as effective
it is like saying an air gun is as effective at killing people as a real m16
cystal maiden has high winrate in the trench.
but somehow OP is losing with braindead high winrate heroes
@rpq
Yes, but saying "bruh do x go y then z" like it's the only way to win in dota (basically how that 300 mmr moron talk) is simply retarded
Supports win games only when you have normal cores who knows what he's doing. Btw Bws what are you trying to say? That everyone who is below 1k is retarded? I bet many <1K players could beat your dirty ass.
play party games, solo mmr games hardly means something to improve your win rate.
all i know if you belong ur bracket, solo mmr is completely luck, everything is about having cancerous teammates or not having cancerous teammates. thats all. which team has way less cancerous teammates or account buyers, that team will win.
also there are boosters.
WELCOME TO DOTA WORLD LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
@Diox
Everyone higher could get that high % percentage not so sound boastful but in your bracket guys couldn't or don't know how stop a fat good pubstomper heroes that gets like 10-1-2 in less 20 mins.
CM is good hero to be honest but it is not a braindead high winrate hero (why you think like that?) CM is squishy like a marshmallow, you need a skill of making yourself at good position during team fight and even if you tried your best at positioning there is always that game that would make you lose.
Some heros that rely on team more will do better at higher mmr , the lower the mmr the more you want a hero that is able to kill on his own . Currently I'm saving void in my back pocket for when I get back closer to 4K becuase it sucks landing sweet chromosome just to see them wasted by your team mates .
Just grind with Sven man that hero is still op even with his recent nerfs gotta get on it asap tho I bet he's gonna get a bigger nerf next patch .
I don't play Sven becuase he breaks 2 outa my 3 tenants on heros I don't like playing.
1. Able to be kited easy
2. Requires a lot of micro
3. Requires a bkb a lot of games becuase I hate this item .
Yes, but saying "bruh do x go y then z" like it's the only way to win in dota (basically how that 300 mmr moron talk) is simply retarded
If his purpose is to get more MMR, then using the most effective manner for it is advisable, as with anything. Imagine you practice playing support really hard, great now you can maybe have 55% winrate and slowly climb. Or you can practice cores and get 60%+ winrate because your game impact is way higher in the trenches.
I mean, you have to be a fucking idiot to pick a CM or ogre into a carry that has 12 last hits at 10 minutes because he is literally incapable of last hitting even in a free lane. Even if you have practiced supporting, that guy will be useless. It's a huge gamble.
No matter how much you practiced CM, that fucker's gonna be underfarmed because HE DIDN'T PRACTICE ENOUGH HIMSELF. On the other hand, you can be that core getting 50+ LH every game, and even if you just practice last hitting, you won't improve much at the game in general, but you will have way more tools at your disposal.
CM is a briandead hero, true, and her winrate is huge in the trenches. But so is necro's, and if you're actually practicing one or the other, guess which has a greater payoff? Yeah, no shit, it's necro.
Last hitting doesn't require brainpower, it's just muscle memory and eye-finger synchronization. If you practice it enough, no matter if you are 500 or 1k or 3k or 5k, you'll just get better at it anyways. This is completely antithetical to THINKING and UNDERSTANDING THE GAME.
CM is a braindead hero because her high winrate doesn't come from people being good at CM (there is no hero in the game whose high winrate comes from PEOPLE BEING GOOD AT THE HERO), but the hero being useful BY MERELY EXISTING. Her aura is huge, root counters a lot of those pesky escape heroes, and her ult can deal a lot of damage if people are stupid and don't save disables for her.
groot if i had to predict your winrate at 1500 which is about the bracket diox's mmr shows him as playing i'd say you maybe get to 55%. You aren't nearly as good as you think you are and understand a lot less than you think you do.
Supports win games only when you have normal cores who knows what he's doing. Btw Bws what are you trying to say? That everyone who is below 1k is retarded? I bet many <1K players could beat your dirty ass.
hi guys im so good but i dont want support cuz noob core i only pick core even if the team already picked 4 of them!!!
Guess WHAT
Nearly every single moron on the trench think like YOU
And GUESS WHAT
They're fucking STUCK there
Stop being a goddamn narrow minded piece of SHIT and maybe you can get better
What I'm trying to say here is if you play dota like it's some sort of single player game where everything is set in stone based on the storyline (a.k.a picking core is the only way to win! farm fast win game! wow if you die alot you farm then fight then win game!) you're better off not playing the game at all
Actually here in 600mmr games no one actually picks cores believe it or not. One or two guys will pick a carry but they will mostly "support" with it, so i have to carry the game usually. And btw i play peacefully, i get mad only when one of my teammates pick something like WK and can't even use his stun to save me from dying.
What I'm trying to say here is if you play dota like it's some sort of single player game where everything is set in stone based on the storyline (a.k.a picking core is the only way to win! farm fast win game! wow if you die alot you farm then fight then win game!) you're better off not playing the game at all
Every game is different, but the purpose of supports is to enable cores. If your cores sit comfortably at 10-20 last hits at 10 minutes, it's meaningless to support. If they don't actually pay attention to the minimap, it's useless to put wards down. If you play sacrificially so that they have MORE, but have no fucking idea what to do with it, you've just gimped yourself, without ENABLING anyone, because in order to enable someone, they have to understand and use the advantage.
This is why you don't support in ultra low MMR if you have brain cells, because if you do, you won't think like a 1k or 2k player, so you'll naturally be better than people who are STUCK there. This was true for me, this is true for anyone who is REALLY TRYING TO IMPROVE AND GRIND MMR. It's been a long time since I've stopped giving a shit about MMR, and just started playing for the shits and giggles, but if you want to grind MMR at low MMR and get better, supporting is definitely not the way.
Playing PROPER SUPPORT in low MMR is detrimental to rising in MMR fast, because being sacrificial isn't as useful or appreciated in any way, shape or form, and you could as well enable your carry antimage who gets his battlefury at 25 minutes at best because he can't right click at the right fucking time to kill a creep before other creeps do.
You know who this isn't true for? It isn't true for people who spam "hai guise hwo 2 get whs" threads and people who have been stuck in 1k or 2k for years. If you are in 1k after hundreds of games, you are literally bellow average and you have no hope of improving. If you're 1k because you kinda just started playing but are getting the hang of things, you'll quickly realize that supporting in low MMR is a waste of time if you want to grind MMR or even improve at the game, because low MMR is no platform to practice anything, you just get out of there as fast as you can, and playing support ISN'T ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
Every fucking pro support player plays cores when their MMR is 9k and they are in a 6k average game, wonder why? Because they are better than everyone there. If you don't think you're better than everyone, then you're wasting your time trying to gain MMR - you are just where you belong, completely destroying the point of this thread.
The advice to play cores only applies if you are trying to improve and grind MMR, not if you are the same skill and aspiration level as everyone else, in that case, who fucking cares.
@Diox
Well I borrowed my 14 y.o. brother's account in which he is a 1.2k and played it like 3 games today and pick PA/SVEN/SHAMAN on a rank match.
No offense but I won those 3 matches single handedly, even some of my teammates are feeding, I managed to get a Beyond Godlike-rampage w/ PA, U-kill with Sven and they don't even know how to stop Shaman. The thing is most of them are not being objective in the game they just farm-farm-farm and rage! ("in high 2k low 3k people do know something but still trash like me").
I don't know how can a high 2k-3k player couldn't do any shit in that bracket with obviously most players are beginners? Not to sound rough.
@Bearcat0611
Okay, if you gamble and bet me on that then you will lost all your cakes. 😊
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l'm almost a year of playing this game. I still suck at it and I know that darn well, thank you!
^so my story of supporting from 2k to 4k is an exeptional? (dont think so)
It's not exceptional, it's just inefficient, if you were supporting people you are better than while grinding your MMR, I am sure you would've had a bigger winrate an faster progress if you actually played a core and didn't have to facepalm every time your carry dies after blinking into 5 heroes close to a warded area, because you didn't place a ward every 2 meters of the map.
Maybe we can start by realizing that the goal of this game is destroying enemy ancient. People in my bracket often drag the game too long for farming while we have chances to push.
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My winrate is at below 50% and that hits me hard.