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General DiscussionPA new talent tree skilling?

PA new talent tree skilling? in General Discussion
LonelyGoatCheez

    Is the minus 4 armor better or 20% cleave

    Is the double dagger better or 20% lifesteal

    Is the 25% blur better or the 5% Coup de Grace

    Riguma Borusu

      depends on the enemy lineup and your itemization

      Cheap Laugh Guy

        Of course it's the -4 armor
        The rest aren't that important just pick what u like

        bearcat0611

          i think you definetly get the lifesteal at 20 against all carry teams with little magic burst you probably get blur other wise I think you almost always go coup de grace. 20% cleave really isn't a lot but it might be better against summons.

          Riguma Borusu

            if there is anything you can or need to farm or clear in the AoE, cleave is probably better
            double dagger is a commodity you can get when you do not really need the bonus lifesteal, if you do pick it instead
            blur over crit if you are dying I guess but maybe even then a 20% chance to crit might be better, who knows

            30 YEAR OLD DOTA VETERAN

              Minus armor and coup de grace= kill support with dager

              Ⓔⓒⓛⓘⓟⓢⓔ

                take 20 cleave cause -4 armor is not that much pa is not a flash farmer so if u dont snowball u will be lacking in farm like carries like jugg and am and removal of pms also weaken pa early game . lifesteal is always better and it stacks multiplicatively with satanic which is great in late game. at level 25 its already late game so opponent sure got mkbs so if u count 75% accuracy u hardly increasing your evasion from 12% to 18% i.e 6%(read accuracy in dota wiki) so 5% coup degrace always better as its a huge crit.

                Altaire

                  ^if you want to snowball, you pick -4 armor instead of cleave on PA. That + deso is insane

                  Story Time

                    ofc -4 armor, cleave only versus PL, not even for farm, because PA farms heros not creeps

                    DNKartisan.

                      You buy MoM and take the -4 talent.