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General DiscussionPlease tell me powerspikes of every hero

Please tell me powerspikes of every hero in General Discussion
Baba Yaga

    Please kindly tel me the powerspikes of your favourite hero or every hero u know.

    VISHNU

      It's pointless. You will see a lot of misinformation here because even heroes spammers don't always understand power spikes...

      Justin Weaver

        Pudge- dismember

        Baba Yaga

          Thanks

          StaRBerry

            It's often a combination of your items and levels against enemy levels and items.

            A 15m blink & desolator on TA is terrifying but if all lanes fed and their supports all have Ghost scepter, you're hot garbage.

            DotA is a game of differences, not absolute values.

            An Alchemist is scary because he has 2-3x your NW - when they're even the hero is a joke.
            Heroes like CK/Ursa etc function on that idea.

            Shou

              crystal maidens powerspike is level 20 attack speed talent + rapier

              '96 Neve Campbell

                Some of my faves
                QoP - Level 6 (ult)/ Level 25 (fear talent)
                Windranger - Whenever you get a Javelin
                Phantom Assassin - Around level 10 where you get desolator and the damage talent
                Alchemist - Radiance

                Ad.Goku™(tv/adgoku24)

                  Pango-4 min javelin is the biggest power spike I know of and then the lvl 6 rolling thunder.
                  As far as I know, there's no other hero with a bigger power spike.

                  A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘

                    Lion powerspike is lvl 7 max earthspike and ulti available.

                    Stefan

                      Mirana pos 4, id say there are spikes at lvl 2 & 6.
                      Really annoying at lane with both arrow and leap, gg couriers too.
                      Lvl 6 aoe movementspeed and global help on lanes forcing other team to carry detection

                      ME MID

                        Huskar lvl 30. Full talent and lock item.

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                        '96 Neve Campbell

                          Huskar lvl 30. Full talent and lock item.

                          I would kinda disgree with this. Huskar is far more powerful around level 12 where you get level 2 ult, armlet and another item. The hero is a early-midgame powerhouse, by the time you reach level 30 you have already failed to end the game when you should have, and most agi carries will be far more powerful than you by this stage in the game.

                          Baba Yaga

                            Thanks a lot guys. Special thanks to people who have given the timing and reason behind the powerspikes. Thanks a lot

                            Shou

                              huskar is shit at every stage of the game rn.

                              Oldman

                                Nyx with dagon is his power spike.

                                Curse-

                                  It is a very complex question, but I love when I hit lvl 7 on ember. maxed sotf or FG + 2 points in chains(very match up dependant). With remanents it gives you huge kill potential

                                  Manta/basher 22-24 min timing on AM makes you able to solo kill every support with minimal effort and you can start show up to favorable engagements. I also see that I have an almost 80% winrate if the game reaches a point where I have Abyssal and butterfly on AM. So I guess u can say that means he is rather strong at this point ;)

                                  Those are my favorite heroes. My winrate overall on Ember is low, but I had a really really poor winrate when I first started out 7-8 months ago. I still havnt played a year of dota. So these points are just my experience.

                                  Ashura

                                    lets focus on your main hero

                                    PA = Desolator + talent dmg
                                    Jugg = every time he has ult
                                    MK = early if matchup with melee and echo sabre
                                    Sven = Mom + Sny
                                    Dk = When he has Dagger
                                    Sf = When he reaches lvl 9 and has eul/SB
                                    Medusa = Manta + dmg talent
                                    Clink = When he has the first item could be Deso/Orchid

                                    ReHa

                                      @parma

                                      Alchemist radiance is not a real powerspike. You just farm faster. His powespike is around 20-25 min when he should have 2 items more than enemy carry.

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                                      Oldman

                                        Gyro powerspike is Satanic, hot, Aghs and 3x Rapier.

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                                        ReHa

                                          @C. embers powerspike is at 6 , you dont need 7 for kill potential.
                                          Also try some games with max flame guard
                                          Magic ember is still solid.

                                          Shou

                                            radiance is a huge alch powerspike, the whole reason u radiance over battlefury is cuz battlefury is so shit at fighting but a 13 min alch with radiance can also just win fights by himself too.

                                            also monkey king's spikes are really really dependent on his items/role, sometimes monkey doesnt hit a big spike until bkb, sometimes he can win the game with just echo sabre, sometimes you go radiance and go for lategame spike.

                                            also keep in mind difference between a power spike and a timing thats based on cd's, a spike is a macro level point where u are strong because u got a new item or a certain level, having a cd be up or not isnt really a powerspike on a macro level its a micro level timing, thats dependant on the game and when u used it. jugg's powerspike is usually his second item be it diffu manta or mom deso or whatever, tbh i forget the current jugg build exactly, iirc its mom +something. but his gameplay is based around ult cd. those are different.

                                            SLQ

                                              Axe hits it when he has blink AND blademail, around min 15-16. People think blink is enough but it hardly ever is imo.

                                              '96 Neve Campbell

                                                @parma

                                                Alchemist radiance is not a real powerspike. You just farm faster. His powespike is around 20-25 min when he should have 2 items more than enemy carry.

                                                Respectfully disagree, the fact that it enables him to flash farm is a powerspike of sorts by itself, but you should be looking for engagements when you have radiance, with an early timing you can take fights easily with it.

                                                주 롄양

                                                  dusa powerspike is actually aroud manta+rapier+aegis around 20-25 mins but low mmr is such a p-things to pull that out

                                                  Jack__Attack

                                                    Visage gets a free kill at 6 if enemy doesn't have mobility spells.
                                                    Lvl 12 is a massive spike when it birds double their damage
                                                    Lvl 15 you become a team fighting beast.

                                                    Key is you have to not lose the laning stage horribly.

                                                    Jakiro gets a massive spike when you get your atos.

                                                    Shou

                                                      da aegis rapier thing on dusa is definitely it. if u have manta butter rapier or manta skadi rapier and aegis around 25-30 minutes or so idk the exact timing, but pre 30 min. u can often just win.

                                                      ME MID

                                                        Husky 10-12 mins with armlet. And 18-20 mins halberg. Gg. Nxt is bkb. Thats all.

                                                        Oldman

                                                          Im gonna try this dusa build. Do you make pike or lance before manta? Pala sword as neutral item? Or someting else?

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                                                          Arc

                                                            For supports, their powerspike usually at level 15/20 where their talent tree have great impact. 4th position usually needs blink dagger, so thats your powerspike. 5th position usually required level 6 since their ultimate can't scale well into lategame (always give tome to supports unless your support somehow reach level 6 within 10 minutes).

                                                            miiigz

                                                              -Zeus lvl 6/7
                                                              -Zeus with aghs (maybe get a defensive item before)
                                                              -Zeus lvl 25

                                                              ETd

                                                                Necrophos 1st item completion.
                                                                Either +phase/treads into blade mail
                                                                or +treads into hood
                                                                or +arcane into mek
                                                                (assume you have wand in all)
                                                                You're around lvl 8-11 at this time. You got max death pulse(was helping you farm that first item), a point in ghost shroud, points in heartstopper, and an ult ready to keep someone dead for a minute. Whatever you build, you're pretty hard to kill in any engagement, and hard to ignore also because of the damage and healing you output

                                                                arin

                                                                  oh you're a dota expert?

                                                                  name every power spike

                                                                  Shou

                                                                    lex u shud only buy pike on manta extremely situationally cuz its just super low stats otherwise u just go treads 2x wb and quelling blade into manta and then u can either rush rapier straight afterwards or go a butter/skadi and then rapier. u can just run down a lane and take ancient.

                                                                    VISHNU

                                                                      Meepo:

                                                                      Lvl 4 - you can start stacking the jungle
                                                                      Lvl 7 - you can clear stacks without wasting much time
                                                                      Lvl 11 - you can start pressuring other lanes & on the same time flashfarming.
                                                                      Eblade timing - you do a lot of dmg & it’s hard to kill you
                                                                      lvl 18 with rosh + 1 item besides eblade - you are setting up for ending the game

                                                                      Druid:
                                                                      Lvl 5 - most heroes can’t lane against it
                                                                      MoM+Phase
                                                                      I think after it, there is no noticable powerspike. You are stronger with items, but there is rarely a timing that changes the game significantly.

                                                                      Visage:
                                                                      Lvl 6 - farming powerspike, also good if vs ranged hero mid.
                                                                      HotD - makes it possible to do dmg against melee heroes with only lvl 1 birds
                                                                      Lvl 12 - biggest powerspike, you can reliably start engaging in fights with it. It’s unlikely there is a stronger hero than you in the game at this point.

                                                                      Huskar:
                                                                      Lvl 3/4 - most heroes can’t lane agaist you
                                                                      Armlet - you can play more agressivly, it’s hard to kill you without counters
                                                                      Halberd - biggest powerspike in the game for Huskar (in some game it might be delayed till BKB). At this point you want to get rosh & go hg.

                                                                      Lycan:
                                                                      Lvl 5 - most heroes can’t deal with cripple from wolves
                                                                      Lvl 6 with hotd (if you go this route) - most heroes can’t survive your ulti
                                                                      Necrobook 3 - you can take roshan with your team now, and kill most support with minions only
                                                                      Lvl 20

                                                                      Disruptor:
                                                                      Lvl 3 - 2 points in Q, nearly doubles dmg
                                                                      Lvl 6
                                                                      Maxed glimpse
                                                                      Aghs

                                                                      QoP:
                                                                      Lvl 3 - 2 points in dagger
                                                                      Lvl 6
                                                                      Lvl 25

                                                                      Storm:
                                                                      Lvl 3 - big kill/harass potential with vortex
                                                                      Lvl 6
                                                                      Kaya
                                                                      Bloodstone/Orchid
                                                                      BKB
                                                                      Lvl 25

                                                                      Oldman

                                                                        I like pike, stats are good but item is expensive. Maybe wb treads lance? I can get manta rapier at 25-30 min then

                                                                        free mmr wen

                                                                          - invoker second big item bkb
                                                                          - meepo level 11 , meepo full etheral
                                                                          - axe level 6,blademail phase, blink
                                                                          -riki level 6, diffu

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                                                                          bomb mother

                                                                            Lion mid powerspike is lvl 10 dmg talent with mask madness