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    If you get carried, look at their playstyle, their item builds etc, and don't just think "I won, I deserve that win, I went 3-7 but it's still bcs of me"

    Bobby knuckles

      @No Russian that logic is so flawed.

      zancr0w

        is alche even good on 2k? when i play him i always get ganked

        Celine

          Hero choice doesnt matter in 2k tbh
          What matters is the player

          Bobby knuckles

            @gg I got ganked and damn near killed both of them(would have had 10-11 mins radiance with that first blood). Like I said earlier you need to know your own limitations and the capabilities of others heroes in order to exploit them. Best thing about 2k is that once their first couple of ganks fail they will start arguing with each other and give up trying to gank you altogether(happens in most cases).

            Bobby knuckles

              Got 13 mins radiance with no kills, no bounty runes and no neutrals(fuck techies) while following the exact build @🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩 suggested above except completing treads I went BoTs (I had to buy wards and sentries because of BH and tome of knowledge from time to time so that delayed it a bit more also I found out I had to use 250 gold on clarities to sustain without bottle or ring the amount might be less in most other scenarios because that was a shitty game). I was wondering if it took me 13 mins to get that while having no kills, bounty runes or neutrals and buying tomes, wards and sentries, is it possible to get radiance in 8 (or less) mins (I have got it at 10 mins myself) in an actual solo ranked game while following a certain farming pattern. I was dire so neutral camps are not as close to you as they are in radiant. Also it was 2850+ avg mmr solo ranked game(which means I could have accelerated my farm by a lot if it wasn't for us having mines everywhere and my supports not doing anything about it).

              zancr0w

                @Jon Jones should yea sometimes i know my limits and capabilities but sometimes my former 1k self comes up and tells me to dive tower

                also, is radiance better than silver edge mjolnir build?

                fx

                  @gg
                  What?????? 2k gank just after you get ulti and after you get ulti you farm your own stack. Alch can come back from a bad lane very easily

                  🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                    i wouldn't recommend doing it even if you can jones

                    because the higher you go the more competant players get at ganking you

                    so right now oyu can get away with brown boots into radiance, but if you want to play it properly you have to get the other items before.

                    and if you just spam your ulti, you won't run out of mana as you won't need more than 3 clarities and 1-2 shrine uses.

                    p.s i have no idea absolutely why you're buying mjolnir

                    it's completley useless

                    get shiva or ac and just walk uphill at 25 minutes with all those items and end the game.

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                    Bobby knuckles

                      is radiance better than silver edge mjolnir build?

                      Depends on the game actually and personally I try to avoid making silver edge unless the I absolutely have to (I would rather go for blink anyways its much better in most cases).

                      Celine

                        2k ganks? Son what are you smoking

                        zancr0w

                          is taking ancient camp with acid spray and ulti a good idea? i usually did is as soon i reach lvl 6

                          🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                            nah, it's not, it takes too much time to kill ancients early.

                            do it after lvl 8+ when you have armlet and treads to do a lot of damage.

                            jones, my plan is different from yours, don't waste your time on doing stuff

                            just farm as fast as possible and spam mantas to splitpush till you have radi + armlet + octa + bots + manta + ac/shiva

                            then you just walk uphill and end the game, try to minimize game length.

                            you wanna end the game before 30 minutes, not have it over 30+

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                            Bobby knuckles

                              The only thing I skipped from your build was treads because I wanted to make BoTs but given the situation I was in (explained above) 13 mins radiance made me wonder if its possible to get 8 mins radiance in a perfect scenario (with at most 1 kill).

                              Mjolnir is a bad item on alchemist? That's new for me.

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                              🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                it is possible, i have gotten it before with boots>radi rush.

                                i think my record was something like 8:30 or something in a game where i got about 3 kills, but i went for a completely different skill build.

                                but realistically, you can just buy bots on top of treads and just sell treads later when you need a slot for something like octa or shiva/ac

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                                fx

                                  Blink is not bad at all 22 min 6 slot with blink solo killing everyone is quitebgood

                                  zancr0w

                                    what if i change armlet with midas?

                                    🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                      @fx, blink? i think it's a waste of a slot, you just need to end the game with the standard items

                                      you can just tank whatever they throw at you while hitting their towers

                                      @gg

                                      what if i change armlet with midas?

                                      then you should delete the game if you think midas is a farming item or if you EVER consider buying it on alchemist.

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                                      zancr0w

                                        alright thanks for the wisdom cookie ill try alche today

                                        Celine

                                          Anyone wanna listen to my 12% winrate alche insights?

                                          zancr0w

                                            @InSAnity(invoker mode) go ahead

                                            🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                              ye don't mind my hundreds and hundreds of games on alche with 85%+ winrate

                                              Skyfall

                                                You can play the black range creep his very ez just search "Swagfiend"

                                                https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3074281168

                                                Just look at how op he is.

                                                zancr0w

                                                  @Tenesee too paper :(

                                                  Celine

                                                    @gg
                                                    You skip brown boots and instantly go dagon and divine rapier

                                                    Skyfall

                                                      He is not if you build items that has str in it.

                                                      My starting items:
                                                      Wraith band/tango
                                                      Get bounty
                                                      Buy two gg branch
                                                      Build wand
                                                      Get boots
                                                      Get RoA
                                                      Build SB
                                                      Buy dl

                                                      (Rape some carries and towers)

                                                      Finish Silver Edge
                                                      Finish Travel

                                                      Then back at raping towers.

                                                      +25 mmr

                                                      Celine

                                                        I've played against an SF with pike before min 20
                                                        Tanky shitfuck

                                                        dead

                                                          ^sf is good for climbing at low brackets
                                                          https://www.dotabuff.com/players/232970361

                                                          Skyfall

                                                            Playing SF mid was my ticket out of 1.8k to 2.3k but in sea server 2.3k-2.4k its really hard around this level so I started playing lycan and recently got two games that was actually won by me just by simply sucking some gold in jungle and basically punching some towers.

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                                                            dead

                                                              thats because 4ks and below cant deal with split push

                                                              Skyfall

                                                                ^yah and its actually fun playing him i'll build necro/vlad and started running their towers funny how 5 of them push our tier 2 mid tower while I'm raping their rax.

                                                                zancr0w

                                                                  RoA is rod of atos?

                                                                  nvm i went full retard why would a sf build atos lol

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                                                                  dead

                                                                    Ring of aquila

                                                                    zancr0w

                                                                      @Tenesee you play on SEA? maybe we can party and get some party mmr

                                                                      Skyfall

                                                                        I play when around 9am-11:30am tues\thurs but in mwf its 3pm-6pm I still got classes.Well sure we can party just let me hit 2.5k mmr then get a bald haircut as a reward.

                                                                        Skyfall

                                                                          Oh btw I have a medium scale of support hero pools.

                                                                          Celine

                                                                            Tenesse and gg added
                                                                            I can play again next Thursday at mornings

                                                                            Celine

                                                                              My supporting is underrated btw :)

                                                                              Celine

                                                                                Lmao another indog gud shit gud shit

                                                                                zancr0w

                                                                                  my party mmr is 1.7k rip me

                                                                                  doc joferlyn simp

                                                                                    just dont give up playing. if youre consistent in playing youll be able to spot the mistakes that are commonly done in 2k, and in turn see yours and fix them. ofc playing tilted is never a good idea, unless you somehow play better when angry af\

                                                                                    continue carrying on

                                                                                    Celine

                                                                                      Fortunately my party is 2k flat
                                                                                      That means I can meme and still crush the game
                                                                                      Triple dragon lance LS with meepo build never forget

                                                                                      Celine

                                                                                        Also I lost my 62% ranked winrate on 3k gege

                                                                                        zancr0w

                                                                                          @7cking done 2600 hours on dota and i dont think it'll stop soon

                                                                                          doc joferlyn simp

                                                                                            oh wait sorry i thought you were a kinda new player like me. stop pressing that find match button and actually take time to analyze your games, at this point you are playing too much out of habit to be actually improving and learning new things

                                                                                            get a coach or pay bsj

                                                                                            zancr0w

                                                                                              why pay for a coach when you can practice and improve by yourself lol

                                                                                              doc joferlyn simp

                                                                                                aaaaaaaaaaand thats why ur still 2k after 2600 hourse

                                                                                                i was 1.4k calibrated stayed there for 2 months since my irl friends were mostly 1ks and 2ks. met a meme friend who was 5k he taught me shit whilst meme-ing since he could win with supp to core heroes (like phoenix, pugna). games were so educational and lmao-ish in about 4 months i got 2.4k (nothing to brag about, really, but considering my earlier improvement rate, 1k MMR in 4 months is great)

                                                                                                a 2 months after that said meme friend was dying so i tried playing by myself, reached 2.9k by myself

                                                                                                due to irl responsibilities and own dota-wise incompetence three months later i promised i would reach 3k im still 2k

                                                                                                doc joferlyn simp

                                                                                                  stop thinking that your play hours make you look cool and acknowledge youre dogshit

                                                                                                  mr. rabbit

                                                                                                    ooohhh im hurt!!

                                                                                                    anyway yeah i kinda agree that u can improve on ur own perfectly fine but getting a coach helps you get ahead A LOT

                                                                                                    its certainly something tho that u definitely dont want to pay for, if youre like me who doesnt even pay for f2p games

                                                                                                    Skyfall

                                                                                                      Any of you guys know how to record your screen?like dota wtf and other channels idk what program they use I would like to know because I want to make a channel about 2k mmr sea adventures.