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arin

    i thought double damage from bash inside chrono got removed?

    死の恐怖 Haseo

      Shou

        I shud just spam void considering how much I win with this hero

        casual gamer

          6.88 never forget

          Shou

            I remember me some good old offlane void times

            Szczeniarz Brzeczyszcyski

              Midas legion best legion.

              arin

                games against good pango are pointless
                i dont understand how the fuck does icefrog ignore that hero even after 7.08

                Jacked

                  Low winrate on pango

                  Jacked

                    Annoying to play against doesn't mean good

                    arin

                      nothing you say has any relevance

                      JDF8

                        Jacked

                          L u l did I accidentally trigger u again.

                          bearcat0611

                            u can't imagine the cancer until you play against a tinker and a techies booster in the same match.

                            arin

                              not a single winnable game before and after low prio

                              arin

                                winning my lane doesnt do jackshit
                                trying to coordinate my team doesnt do jackshit

                                mb i should stop queuing during off hours, one would think that people might be actually a bit normal - they're probably less toxic than normal queue times but they're incredibly low skilled

                                Potato Marshal

                                  This is now the official "Forever Ancient Club". Blue stars not welcome here.

                                  Shou

                                    archon = ancient confirmed btw

                                    Shou

                                      https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3731542110
                                      casual sub 10 min blink with wand tranqs
                                      jesus ive never played a game this easy

                                      casual gamer
                                        Feachairu

                                          may i join the forever ancient club?
                                          pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

                                          arin

                                            may i join the forever ancient club?
                                            pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

                                            welcome

                                            Lifeline

                                              hello eternal anchor player here

                                              ねずみ

                                                3k ancient player here q:^)

                                                inx

                                                  offlane is the most fun role in the game :o
                                                  run in -> die to 3 -> repeat -> keep 3 enemies shackled to you like dogs, still get xp -> mid and safelane are winning coz theyre playing 4v2

                                                  arin

                                                    how does that work
                                                    when i play 1v3 mid my other two lanes miraculously lose anyway

                                                    Tento komentář byl upraven
                                                    Shou

                                                      How viable is axe

                                                      casual gamer

                                                        47.6% viable

                                                        arin

                                                          i wish valve brought back the creep spawns on 0:30

                                                          having one pos 5 and one roamer in 95% games is moronic

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                                                          Shou

                                                            ive concluded axe is viable against retards

                                                            Jacked

                                                              Axe always had higher winrate in lower brackets

                                                              Feachairu

                                                                i thank you for the welcome

                                                                Bungmangler

                                                                  https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3734736491

                                                                  offlane DK , decides to go 0-12 at like the 10 min mark.
                                                                  IT should be noted that he picked DK into an and tusk ET, razor came next.
                                                                  needless to say he just kept going solo to lanes and feeding, repeatedly.
                                                                  Pushed a bunch and said not a single word the entire time. would also go solo lane and just push. basically it was a 4v5 the entire game.

                                                                  He did enjoy spamming pings from time to time.

                                                                  Well we won, 1-20 DK. At the end of the game, he said " I made space for us to win"
                                                                  End of the day, I suppose he was better then an AFK jungler, but still it was tilt worthy.

                                                                  We won, he got 4 reports.... everygame is winnable!

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                                                                  Bungmangler

                                                                    Great start to the new patch by going 0-4.
                                                                    I would say that I sucked in 3 of out 4 of the matches and was a main contributing factor to why our team lost for at least 2 of those.

                                                                    I just cant win games with LC or doom. I just cant effectively play those heros in the offlane :(

                                                                    not arin

                                                                      i can relate
                                                                      i'd rather play lich 10 games in a row than playing offlane once

                                                                      Lifeline

                                                                        wish I have the autism to just play void like 50 games in a row

                                                                        not arin

                                                                          i imagine that it would give you like +600 mmr though

                                                                          Potato Marshal

                                                                            This is now the official "Forever Ancient Club". Blue stars not welcome here.

                                                                            Nvm, everybody is welcome here, DB is all inclusion, diversity and all that junk.

                                                                            Lruce Bee

                                                                              Forever divine

                                                                              arin

                                                                                how do i play tinker vs spectre

                                                                                casual gamer

                                                                                  buy hex fast and hex the illusion

                                                                                  before that do ur best to rearm blink away

                                                                                  if you fuck up rearm blink and he doesnt have manta justl aser tp away

                                                                                  Shou

                                                                                    What do you do when u r losing as sniper but ur the highest networth, u want to def hg but ur whole fucking team just keeps getting baited and running out of the hg and dying.
                                                                                    Also what do u do against an Abaddon with blademail octarine radiance and aegis, the man had 2 lives, a 25 second CD, and a blademail he cud pop whenever he was getting focused. He just wouldn't die.

                                                                                    casual gamer

                                                                                      u either commit to a fight with ur team if u cant defend hg if the baited heroes die, or you just stick hg if they have bb or you have teammates that will live (tinker type shit, techis ww u know what heroes im talking about). you should really try to not make it get to that point though

                                                                                      abaddons ridiculous but in general ur best bet is to wear him down slowly then pop his ult and focus him only after ult/bm. ideally u can kill him right after he respawns before he has cds up. ur best bet for this is playing od/slark or at least long range damage that doesnt need to commit, but as before this is a really shitty no-win situation.

                                                                                      ofc if you have break and hex or silence you can get through ult that way but ull have to deal with it on the second life anyway. i dont think ignoring a max level abaddon with rad is a winning play unless you can kill someone REALLY important or guarantee put him out of the fight for a long time with imprison or chrono or bane sleep

                                                                                      bonus points if abaddon has blink and is thus literally impossible to punish for any variety of garbage positioning

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                                                                                      Shou

                                                                                        ^i was a sniper
                                                                                        We cudve defended hg and our towers if people actually pushed out lanes, smth like a blink wk, but im a sniper against a pudge, I can't walk out that far without dying.
                                                                                        We lost too many towers for free, I cudnt show up to fights when I needed too, and these people left hg where we cud defend with a good echo and sniper shit to fight outside for no reason.
                                                                                        https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3741324875

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                                                                                        casual gamer

                                                                                          u can push lanes out with shrapnel as long as you don't actually show (night ideally) i think you can get pretty far out. smoke optional but it's very possible to die in dumb ways if you walk over a bad ward

                                                                                          you can tell ur teammates to stay hg or ping back or w/e but there really is a limit to how much you can influence behavior

                                                                                          but yeah a lot of the time if ur looking at the lategame and saying "this isnt very winnable" ur best bet was using a tp at 6 minutes or some shit and it wouldve changed the whole match

                                                                                          arin

                                                                                            buy hex fast and hex the illusion

                                                                                            before that do ur best to rearm blink away

                                                                                            if you fuck up rearm blink and he doesnt have manta justl aser tp away


                                                                                            last two spectres i played against built straight manta as first big item, when enemy spec in my last game was like 5 1 at 10 mins then the game was unwinnable i suppose, at least from my own perspective? (although undoubtedly i've done far too many mistakes)

                                                                                            or just play super passively but i feel like that's a way to lose anyway

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                                                                                            casual gamer

                                                                                              basically like i said if u dont get the rearm blink u just die lul

                                                                                              sometimes u can walk it off if teams nearby or get the real one with laser but usually its do or die for rearm blink if they rushed manta sadly

                                                                                              u could buy glimmer ghost or force optionally. had jenkins go for glimmer before blink which was hilarious but didnt look like it worked too well

                                                                                              chicken spook,,,,

                                                                                                gotta love your teammates first picking am and invoker, then followed with PA

                                                                                                casual gamer

                                                                                                  the pa picker is a selfless team player who removed a counterpick and took the bullet for her two teammates

                                                                                                  Shou

                                                                                                    Roaming pa PogChamp